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Friday, 10 February 2017

Scalford Hifi Show 19 March 2017 - A Unique Show By Enthusiasts

40 rooms of hifi - systems brought from home by enthusiasts for show goers to hear, with no interest in selling.
Supported by a handful of traders engaged in this community with new and used kit and vinyl gor sale.
A radical new approach to this community by Linn.
A charity raffle with £5000 worth of prizes.

See and hear the Audiophile Musings system in Room 237.

Full press release here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ITkNkMXEry4dLk

Tuesday, 31 March 2015

Scalford System 2015 - Feeback From Around the Forums

Here are the comments from around the forums (I've listed them all, where I've found them - both positive and negative):

LINN:

Dasher: I think that you surprised quite a few people yesterday! Congratulations - it worked really well

PINK FISH MEDIA:

Ginger: A digital set up of Fiio/MF VDAC, tisbury passive and Linn Katans (all for under a grand according to it's owner) sounding lovely, especially at this money. I've heard none of this stuff before but the speakers disappearing, imaging nicely, again unforced, out of the boxes, I could live with that no problem. 

Muzzer: Ginger I agree about some of those big money systems being amongst the poorer sounding systems, also was not really impressed by the much hyped Event Opals and did not rate the Linn Katan active setup much.

Joolzdee: My first, but won't be my last Scalford show.
Favourites for me were...in no particular order....
Room 200 with the Mac mini/ Grimm active speakers
Room 201 with the Royd Sapphires. What a big sound!
Room 202... Activ Katans
and Room 22... High spec LP12, Gato, Art Alnico speakers (stunning!!)
Well done to all exhibitors though.....plenty of good sounds and lots of hard work too!!
Thanks everyone.

TonyL: I enjoyed a couple of systems mentioned rather negatively upthread, the active Katans & Events both sounded good to me, I've certainly never heard passive Katans sound anything like that good before, but in both cases I managed to bag a good front and centre seat.

Foot Tapper: I made a point of popping in for a listen yesterday and was really pleasantly surprised. For such compact speakers, I thought that the sound was punchy, fast, tuneful and went surprisingly deep. The very small source components were also digging far more of the music out than I had expected. Not being a fan of Linn's current electronics, I really wasn't expecting much, but the system far, far exceeded my expectations. In fact it was great! Thanks for making the effort to set it up so well.   (also, from the same contributor on the Naim Forum: Your room sounded amazingly good this year, especially for such a compact system.  
It must have been the active amplification for the speakers.
Either that, or the carefully selected grade of goose down in your bass traps

jhud1952: Couldn't agree more - truly excellent sound from such a compact system.

CYRUSUNOFFICIAL:

hifinutt: so good to catch up with quite a few from cu and the rooms sounded good with the opals and I must say sunbeams room was absolutely brilliant as usual. those katans with the linn and flac source was very holographic. well whatever you did it was magic !!!!  As you know sunbeam was using his (Tisbury) in his marvellous set up at the wam show and it sounded pretty fine

mickbald: Sunbeams set up. How can you possibly get so much sound for £1000? Tiny speakers delivering the impossible, and where was the subwoofer hidden? Sunbeam never stood up while I was there so I have my suspicions

maro73: Some systems to point out
1. Sunbeam .. World beater system
2. The mingda system was really good
3. There were some high high end systems , good to listen to but in a house impossible , unless you wife is blind or likes hifi

abozo: sunbeamgls: very impressive sound/pound. Your system was making a lot us think!

Dan1502: Having been meaning to find your room all weekend Edun telling me how good it was gave me a nudge to go and find it on Sunday afternoon. It ended up being a much needed break and I sat there relaxing for half an hour or so up until the point I noticed nobody else could get in the room so I moved on for their sakes.

Callen24: Sunbeam system was one of the few able to create a soundstage, I only heard 13 rooms, but most of them sounded like the sound was in the speakers, not around them....The two packed duvets, in the corner, and the closed curtains suggest to me that sunbeam spent a lot of time thinking about what he was doing. He has obviously had an affect because the price of katan speakers has gone up a few notches, on the bay, since scaffold.

CrimsonDonkey: Loads of cred for sunbeams room he did a great job

HIFI WIGWAM:

Petrat: ... and Sunbeamgls ... those little Aktiv Katans will stay long in my memory.

syep2001: Sunbeamgls - Probably them most relaxed room i went in all day, smooth low volume, and the female vocal that came out of the Katans sounded very nice.

JamPal (nee hifiwigwam at the time): However, it was some of the smaller rooms which really got me thinking. SunbeamGLS's little Linn Katans fed from a FIO was absolutely stunning, I stayed a long while in there.

Steve H: The speakers I enjoyed listening to most today was the Linn Katan in room 202 followed by the little Harbeths P3. The produce to my ears, a sound that is fast and clear. I could have stayed much longer to enjoy the music and conversation.

NAIM FORUM:

naim_nymph: This system was top draw imho, the small speakers didn't challenge the acoustics of the room, no colourisation, just easy on the ear music. If there was a prize for giant killing this system would have got 1st place.
Wanted to stay longer but much to go see and hear : )

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Friday, 27 March 2015

Surviving the Wigwam HiFi Show At Scalford 2015

The room list has been published here: http://thehifishow.com/guide do your research now and you can prioritise the rooms you want to visit based on the types of equipement in use.
A few tips:
In the rooms you're interested in, try a few different seats in the room as the set up won't be perfect and you might find yourself in a room null / peak and not get a good impression so move about a bit.  Also try a minimum of 2 tracks before deciding to stay a bit or move on.  Mark up your guide before and during so you know which rooms to go back to.
It a bit of a warren - treat the building as 2 halves - the old building which has most of the larger rooms - ground and first floor, with the stairs to the first floor being just opposite the reception.  The new building is best accessed through one of 2 less than obvious doors - see the guide linked above.  One is just to the right of the Private Dining Room and involves crossing the courtyard to the door diagonally to the right.  The other is to the left of the stairs at the left of the private dining room you go straight through 3 doors and then turn right along a covered walkway and through another door into the new section.  Once in the new section its essentially a 2 floor L shape so you can work along one floor, change floors and work back along the other floor.    The only anomilies to this are the Gun Room / Rutland Room on the ground floor and Syndicates 23 and 24 on the first floor, so watch out for those.
If you want to maximise your time, take some sarnies as its a fair schlep back to the "restaurant" which will be selling burgers and sarnies.
May be start and the far end and work back, if you're there first thing as many just wander into the rooms nearest the doors and they get crowded

Be polite enough to smile / nod / acknowlege the room hosts.  You might like what you hear, it might by OK or you might think its awful - that doesn't matter, the room hosts deserve a thank you for spending their own time and cash to be there.


Friday, 16 January 2015

SCALFORD HIFI WIGWAM SHOW - 29TH MARCH 2015

The date has been announced for the best HiFi Show of the year in the UK.

Listen to systems put together by enthusiasts for enthusiasts to listen to.  Over 40 systems with more combinations of components that you could possibly imagine.

Eclectic systems

Eclectic music

Pies

Prizes

A couple of vendors

Beer

A great day out.

Get there early - there's always a queue before the 10am start.

FIND OUT MORE HERE:  http://www.thehifishow.com/


Monday, 10 March 2014

Scalford 2014 - The Wigwam Hifi Show Report

IT'S DIFFERENT

The Hifi Wigwam Hifi show is like no other.  50 rooms of systems set up by enthusiasts in an hotel in the UK Midlands to play music for other enthusiasts.

What's the point of that?  Well variety seems to be the watchword.  There's nowhere else where you'll be able to hear so many different approaches to music playing in one day.  And all of it is independent of the manufacturers.  Don't take that to mean impartial - its far from that as the Wam is famous for the views of its members, and their enthusiasm to express those views.

Every room is very different (although you'll hear lots of ways of hanging vinyl, valves and horn speakers together), and tackles what the exhibitor thinks is a good way of playing music at home.  Some of the rooms are very challenging (think hard walls with no furniture, or tiny hotel bedrooms with bouncy chipboard floorboards and sound bleeding through from the next room), and getting a system working even slightly close to its potential is often many hours of setting up work.  Its a lot of work going to exhibit, lots of kit to be transported across the country, carried up stairs, positioned, re-positioned and then re-positioned again, take it all apart, transport it again.

WHY?

Its a strange thing, trying to figure out why anyone does this.  There's no money in it for the exhibitors, in fact it costs money - as a minimum for the liability insurance, and for those in the larger rooms, the additional fee for a large room plus the cost of getting there, staying in the hotel and, the inevitable, beer money.  Is it the community?  Possibly - despite the outward appearances on the Wigwam forum, they're just a bunch of enthusiasts trying to get the best out of their (perhaps I should be saying "our", being a Wammer myself) music playing kit, and to learn from each other.  Is it to gather affirmation of their ability to build / assemble and excellent solution?  Also a possibility, but given the opportunity to produce a rubbish sound in some of these challenging rooms, it hardly seems likely.  Is it altruism, offering to help others decide how to build a good music playing system?  More possibilities here.  What about just extending the idea of the Wammer gathering when a few get together and compare various bits of kit in one of their homes?  There are probably more reasons too, but I suspect it is mainly a combination of the above for most, with other reasons thrown in (such as an excuse to get away for the weekend with like minded folk and drink beer whilst having a good old natter.  There's certainly a community atmosphere about the place, and there's certainly a chance to help others (e.g. one year there was a Wammer there offering to test valves for correct operation).

TAKING PART

This year was my 3rd pie-fi show (it's near Melton Mowbray).  The first year I attended with Richard and John as visitors.  Some systems we enjoyed, some we hated, some were so-so.  And so it will be every year and for every visitor - but every visitor will have a different list of systems in each of those categories.  In every room, joy for one visitor may well be apathy for the next.  What is a constant is the effort put in by exhibitors, and the risk of a disappointing sound.  So even in the rooms where you're less then enamoured by the sound you hear, its always good to remember all that hard work, and acknowledge or thank each and every exhibitor you encounter.

Last year was the first time exhibiting.  Richard and I took my all-Linn active streamer based system.  Partially this was because I thought there would be interest in this as something different (there had been no all-Linn systems at any of the previous 4 iterations of the show) and partially because I really think that system has a lot to offer in terms of musical enjoyment.  To be fair, there was also the fun part of taking something that many Wammers think has very little to no merit as a solution, nor as a brand.  You can read about the results here.

So what to do this year?  It didn't take long to decide to exhibit again, but with the over-riding attraction of Scalford being variety, it seemed appropriate to do something different to last year.  Having more than one system around the house makes this possible.  So this time I wanted to go for something less expensive, yet something again that was new or different for the show.  What would it be?  In the late Summer of 2013 and idea started to form and it was based around taking a Yello "virtual concert" DVD with me to a fellow Linn forum member's house to watch / listen to on his Linn system.  This DVD is excellent sound quality, superb imagery and Yello is a perennial favourite at hifi shows.  The idea was off and running.  A post up on the Wam indicated that there was some interest in a visual presentation, but it wasn't exactly an overwhelmingly positive response.

Sticking with the cost effective route, I put together the following system, after a bit of a test session (read about it here), and the application for a room went in.  As new exhibitors get preference, and that I was proposing something a little unusual, I kind of expected to not be offered a room this year.  Selection is by a very small committee - its not a democracy, and that's fine.  If it turns into a democracy we'd never see a show happen at all.

Sony BD-S480 Blu-ray as transport
Linn Akurate Kontrol/0 Dynamik as DAC and pre-amp
Rotel RB970BX power amp
Mission 773e speakers
Q Acoustics 2070Si sub
Dell M410HD projector & room whiteboard
Chord Prodac Pro Gold digital coax interconnect
Linn Silver analogue interconnect
Linn K20 speaker cable
Clearer Audio Copper Alpha HDMI cable
Clearer Audio Copper Alpha distribution block and mains cables
Quadraspire and Cyrus / Mission Isoplat system support
Atacama SE20 speaker stand for the projector

I also had a projector screen on stand by, but was hoping to get a room with a large flat wall or a whiteboard to work with.  The Linn DAC / pre-amp probably doesn't qualify as cost effective, but you can't have it all ways when putting something together just for a weekend.

The music choice was easy - we would play the Touch Yello Virtual Concert on a loop all day - it plays for about 40 minutes, but most people only stay in the rooms for 5 minutes or so, so that's not a problem.  Well, at least I thought it was an easy choice, but Richard was a bit less confident, which made me less confident, but it was kind of too late, as the application had gone in.

Having exhibited the previous year, this year was somewhat easier.  Dig out last year's spreadsheet and swap out the kit names etc. Make sure the right spares reflected the system in use and make sure there are adequate boxes to protect the kit in transit.  Having lighter speakers this year seemed to be a good thing - carrying last year's up the 2 staircases was hard work.  Hadn't factored in that they're boxed as a pair though...  We were successful in getting a room (again up on the 2nd floor in the main hotel building), so down to work.  Accommodation booked, Saturday night curry booked and pork pies ordered for my room assistants.

THE WEEKEND ARRIVES

All boxed up by Thursday night before the show, signs printed (room door, kit list in the room, and signs to help visitors actually find the 2nd floor in the main building), stuff like biscuits and water for the room sorted and other sundry practicalities to deal with.  Yet again it all looked like an huge amount of kit, stacked up in the hallway and our lounge.  Was it all going to fit into the car?  Saturday arrived - decent weather and all the kit squeezed into the car at the second attempt.  Actually a bit more space left than last year, Richard came over and we set off on the 2.5 hours cross-country.

When you get to Scalford it all gets a bit surreal.  There's folks and boxes and vans and trollies everywhere.  Its all very purposeful.  There are also plenty of folks already at the bar...  We take about an hour to get everything up to the room and out of its boxes, with the help of brother John and fellow Wammer Rick who happened to be passing and offered to lift n shift - all part of the community spirit.  We spent about 10 minutes discussing the layout of the room then got to setting up.  About 30 minutes later we had music playing and a picture on the very conveniently located whiteboard.  Speakers were moved around several times until they balanced well in the room, then we added a very subtle assistance from the subwoofer - again a few adjustments and we were done in under 2.5 hours.  Still seemed a long time, but worth the effort.  With cables taped down and signs up on the walls we were off to the bar to get refreshments.

On the Saturday evening there's a really relaxed atmosphere about the place as Wammers (with beer in hand) wander around to see who's set up yet and drop in for a listen.  The surreal vibe continues - you don't know which rooms will be ready, where they are (the place is a rabbit warren) and what they'll be playing.  Unlike Sunday when everything is very very busy, Saturday is chilled and easy going.  There's good banter and the occasionally panicking Wammer trying to fix a problem or borrow a bit of cable from somewhere.  Just meander around and drop in - you're always welcome.  Bizarre though - who would ever think of running a pair of Quad ESL 63s in a bedroom for example?  With the bed still in there!  Everyone is both opinionated and friendly at the same time.  Then there's the curry buffet and more beers with more listening to be done.  As an exhibitor this is the best time to get around and hear some music.  Sunday will be a bit manic in comparison.

A few pics of our very simple set up this year:

The kit
Setting Up: Playing Toto
During Sunday (photo courtesy of a Wammer - see the link to the gallery below)
Audience (and sophisticated black-out arrangement!)
All the show pictures posted by Wammers are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thehifishow/with/12912104184

SUNDAY

Up around 8am, showered and down for breakfast.  The bedrooms at Scalford are functional.  There's a new owner now (must've been a bit of a shell-shock, taking over the reins on Friday then touring around the rooms over the weekend, seeing what goes on over the Hifi Show weekend) - lets hope it doesn't get too posh.  Whilst a refurb would be a good thing, if it gets too posh it'll get too expensive for many exhibitors and perhaps the economics of the show will no longer stack up.  Lets hope a good balance is maintained.

Breakfast is busy and there's lots more boxes of kit making their way into the hotel.  More helping going on.  There are lots of volunteers about the place - running the show, manning the ticket table, setting up the raffle, handing out the exhibitor badges, just running the whole thing or mucking in wherever required.  And the ever tolerant and helpful hotel staff who probably wonder what's hit them.  We finish off putting a few more signs up on doors and as directions then check out of the bedroom and prepare for the day.  Our first visitors are in at 9:40 (the show opens at 10!) whilst we're still taping up some extra materials to help black-out the windows.

We take turns to look after the room and advise visitors on the kit and the artist (surprisingly, a good number are new to Yello), how much it cost, who makes the projector etc. etc.  We get some good feedback, we get polite nods and we get folk who don't acknowledge that you exist (grrr, you don't have to like what we're playing but you could at least be polite).  We get a few moments of a completely empty room, but that's few and far between.  Most of the time there are between 6 and 10 visitors in the room.  Some put their heads around the door and don't come in, some stay for 5-15 minutes (this is the majority) and some stay for a full cycle of 40 minutes.  We have a good 10 or so who come back for more later in the day (or maybe more, I wasn't in the room all day to know who was a re-visit and who wasn't, in some cases).

Having 2 assistants to look after the room during the day meant a good amount of time to get about the other rooms too, which was really appreciated.  There were many interesting exhibits such as Serge's quadraphonics, the professional reel-to-reel tape decks, fantastic DIY kit, some amazing workmanship in wood etc.  I didn't get around to all the rooms but I particularly enjoyed the Jolida / Muhlidine system, Myrman's Zingalis (suffering from the boominess in the room, but cutting through that), the Wadia / Krell / Wilson Audio system making the best of a very large and reverberant room and the LP12 / Naim / Neat MF7 system.  Hearingisbelieving (Chris) was getting exceptional results in what must be one of the worst excuses for a room ever - the T+A speakers coping well in what is effectively a wide corridor.  I'm sure there were other highlights, but I either missed them, or they've slipped my mind for the moment.

Its amazing how quickly the 7 hours goes by.  But by 16:45 we had an empty room and decided to start packing up.  About 10 minutes in we had to disappoint some visitors who were still making their rounds, so apologies to them.  Took us one hour (6 hands make light work) to get everything into boxes and packed into the car.  Stirling work by Richard and John after a long day, they made the weekend much more enjoyable in terms of a shared experience, good banter, company when touring the rooms etc. - thanks very much to both of them (although I have a sneaking suspicion they had a good time too).  Also many thanks to all the Wammers who make this happen, and to the hotel staff for their cheerfulness and tolerance.  And to the raffle organisers - I came away with a SIM2 projector, so very pleased with that, but also for them raising approx. £2000 for cancer charities.  Excellent.

Another 2.5 hours in the car in torrential rain saw us home again safely, boxes out of the car, then collapse and ready for sleep.  A very exhausting weekend, but somehow very enjoyable.

One final thanks - and the most important one for me - to my wife and kids for letting me spend such valuable weekend time doing something quite so off-beat as the Wam show.

Now, what's the plan for 2015?   :-)

AND FINALLY, SOME FEEDBACK FROM AROUND THE FORUMS

From Cyrusunofficial.co.uk :

abozo: TBH Yello isn't my taste in music but I have to admit that the sound in sunbeamgls's room was startlingly good.  A very nice setup and those Mission speakers were outdoing themselves. 

Moz: I think you got a great sound out of those Missions. Enjoyed my time listening and viewing. Thanks for exhibiting.

callen24: +1 so good where those missions that in the dark I thought they were £15k linn actives, yello isn't my cup of tea, but stop make sense, or some other classic concert film would float my boat.
the whole idea improved the show, still hifi , and not AV

hifinutt: I think sunbeams system was a real hit with many , it was so enjoyable and sounded better for knowing it was such a reasonable cost

Brumjam: The room showing Yello through a Mission system was another highlight.

From forums.linn.co.uk :

Slackboy: Sunbeam's room was cool; nothing like anything else there, which was great in itself. I was surprised at how crisp that Rotel/Mission pairing was, especially on percussion - very nice. I'm not all that much of a Yello fan, but I did enjoy something to look at other than a load of (other) middle-aged blokes with beer bellies. Great idea and well done. Very inspiring!

Dasher: I enjoyed your AV too even though I too am to a great Yello fan.

From hifiwigwam.com :

cobbler: great fun and loved the concept of a themed room.

petethefeet: Loved the setup in there, inspired. A real experience.

Turn It Up!: I think my Yello days are long behind me but fair play to you for the all out Yello only playback. Nice to see some visuals, be good to have a few other exhibitors get some screens running.

Beobloke: Fine sounding setup and I loved the Yello concert – a very novel idea.

sligolad: Met Niall(Neill), John and Friend at the saturday night curry. Great lads and fellow bikers as well but when Niall explained the system I though this is a bit ridiculous why bother doing it. Changed my mind when I saw the quality of picture and sound achieved with a small budget.

JANDL100: Sunbeamgls's Yello Touch virtual DVD concert on permanent repeat. A great idea. Fab.

themadlatvian: Actually I greatly enjoyed your Linn system the previous year, so I wasn't surprised when you came up with a musically pleasing room this time. I know the limitations of the 773es from personal experience, but you got far more out of them than I expected.



Saturday, 15 February 2014

Stuck

Looks like the repair has been a success.  So far.  The trip to Scalford for The Hifi Show will decide if its truly sorted or not.


Wednesday, 22 January 2014

Preparing for The Hifi Show at Scalford on 2nd March

I've been successful in the allocations of rooms at the Scalford Hifi Show again this year, so planning is underway.  This show is for enthusiasts' systems - its not commercial, its just for the sake of listening to lots of different systems (about 50 again this year) and lots of different music all in one place on the same day.  Some of it will be very esoteric, some prosaic, some weird and some DIY.  Variety is the spice of this particular show.

Having played the main system last year I'm doing something different this year, going for a 2.1 AV setup.  My intention is to play the "Touch Yello" DVD on repeat all day - each run takes about 45 minutes.  Yello tends to be popular at this type of event, but I don't think Scalford has seen an AV solution before, so it will be interesting to see how popular the room is.  Originally I was thinking of being very amitious and going with a 5.1 system.  But the Yello soundtrack is only in 2.0, so there's no point really.  Maybe another year.

The proposed kit is much more prosaic than the main Linn system and consists of:

Sony S480 blu-ray player
Linn Akurate Kontrol/0/D (mainly being used for its excellent internal DAC)
NAD 2155 or Rotel RB970BX power amp
Optional Q Acoustics 2070Si subwoofer
DELL M410HD projector and screen

As part of the planning I set up the various components in the kid's playroom (lots of space, but unfortunately 3 walls of windows) to decide on NAD vs Rotel power amps and to check the subwoofer's integration with the Missions.

Testing Time
 So with lots of power, HDMI and audio cables strewn across the room, Yello was spooled up on the Sony (its the extremely slim box bottom right of the picture).  The NAD amp was OK, but a bit sluggish and lightweight.  The Rotel beefed things up nicely and moved along at a better pace with somewhat smoother and more detailed treble.  So that decision was quick and easy.  The system still sounds pretty bright (but not harsh) and I'm hoping that's down to the nature of the room - all that glass is very reflective of high frequencies.
Next the subwoofer was unpacked and plugged in (not shown in the picture above).  It took a while to get it all working smoothly together, but, in this room, it worked well.  Using the "music" setting rather than "movies" and with the crossover point at around 70Hz a good amount of non-flappy weight was added to the sound, and the brightness was balanced somewhat too (but still not enough for my taste).
So we'll see how well the sub integrates in the room at Scalford, but its definitely coming along as I'd prefer to use it if I can.   Hopefully the lack of glass at Scalford will help somewhat too.





Monday, 18 March 2013

Chester Hifi Show March 2013 Review

Must be show season, with Scalford on 3rd March, Manchester coming up on 23 / 24 March and last weekend's Chester show put on by Acoustica and held at the Doubletree Hotel on the outskirts of the City.  A bijou show this one - just 6 systems on show, and a couple of iPod docs from B&W too.

Here's a summary of what we heard:

Naim electronics / Guru speakers sounding very good in the top of the stairwell - not exactly the ideal place to put a system, so quite challenging. Perferred the standard Gurus to the new Juniors - the Juniors sounding very good with some music but going hard and unforgiving on other music.  The standard Gurus are quite remarkable for such small boxes - going very deep and filling the room without any signs of strain.

Rega RP6 / Classe / B&W 805s (the RP8 they were hoping to demo had failed in the morning). We were in this room when they played Dark Side Of The Moon and it was rubbish.
The disc that is, should've been binned - sounded like the dog had eaten its dinner off that disc, why on earth anyone would use that to demo anything is beyond me. We waited a good 15 minutes into the first side to see if it cleared up but it didn't. Demoing at its worst. Unfortunate for the system, but we didn't bother going back for more.

Naim electronics (2 x NAP300 bi-amping, HDX and DAC as a streamer, not sure about all the power supplies nor the pre-amp) into the £145k AudioVector R11s. On first entering the room this system sounded mighty impressive - oodles of detail, rock solid imaging etc. But after about 20 minutes I realised I hadn't been toe-tapping at all, bass was so tightly controlled it was somewhat lacking and the sheer height of those things make them completely impractical for 99% of homes. But it was the lack of involvement in the music that struck me. They played a live version of Smoke on the Water that had 2 people leave the room and the rest of us begging them to stop playing it. I've never felt the need to ask someone to stop playing something at a hifi show before.

Naim electronics (NDS streamer and lots of NAP300s) driving the new to maket £30k Ovator 800 speakers in active mode. In a converted barn. Magnificent room, completely unsuitable for listening to a home hifi.  Why? What are the dealers and manufacturers trying to achieve by putting a system in such an unsuitable environment?  Are they trying to put people off buying their stuff? Pretty much everything pop / rock sounded congested and cardboardy (anyone who has head the smaller Ovators will probably recognise that description). Sounded good with some very simple choral music, but went all congested (compressed even?) when the whole choir and organ ensemble joined in together.

Naim electronics (NDS, 252, not sure on the amps) into Kudos Super 20 floorstanders (£4,250). At last some musicality. Really superb. Saved £141k on speakers there then, in comparison to the AudioVectors! This really was the stand out system for all 4 of us. Beautiful sounds here - no nastiness, no real compromises, but also worth noting that this was probably the most realistically "domestic" room in the whole show - and the type of room the show needs to concentrate on. They also played some vinyl on a DPS turntable with Naim Aro and Dynavector XV II which was a pleasure - great dynamics and no background noise at all.

Arcam DVD player and Arcam top end AVR receiver, B&W 5.1 system - played Toto's Africa from a recent concert on Blu-ray. A band clearly enjoying what they were doing and a very immersive experience - wanted to applaud at the end. One of our group thought it sounded poor, but I thought it sounded like a real concert PA system, so you can make your own mind up on that one!  Watching the remastered Star Wars on Blu-ray was good too, but a touch of harshness now and then.  As usual, it might be better to demo these systems at a slightly lower volume - high enough to show off the dynamics, but not so loud as to strain the system.

Sorry about the vagueness regarding kit, but these "professionals" need to learn from the enthusiasts at the Hifi Wigwam Show at Scalford - they give you lots of information about the kit in use and many provide playlists too. Yesterday at the Doubletree there were no kit lists in evidence and no playlists to choose music from.  It would be a very small amount of effort to put a kit list on the door or wall and to print a few music lists out - make an effort please professionals - you are trying to sell product here, this kind of detail should be a given, not seen as a nuisance.

There were some live musicians in the bar too - mainly just jamming, but clearly talented and good to listen too when we took a 15 minute break from the systems.

Thursday, 7 March 2013

Scalford HiFi Show - Exhibitor's Experience

Our mission: give exhibiting a try to see if its a good thing, whilst giving show goers the opportunity to hear something they won't have heard at Scalford before - an all active Linn system based purely around streaming - hopefully giving the doubters (Linn and streaming) something to think about.

Planning started months before, thinking through and discussing what we liked about the show when we went last time (e.g. signs on doors, a list of available music to choose from, how rooms are laid out etc.) - mainly thinking about what music to play, how to make it easy to find and deliver, what kit we would need beyond the actual components, when we would travel over etc. etc. Broached the topic with our partners and got the relevant domestic passes to be allowed out to play.

Searched the Wam for ideas, top tips, what to avoid, what not to forget etc. - there's lots in there and now James has consolidated it into one guide, which is very useful. Concerned that show goers wouldn't want to hear a Linn system, but received positive encouragement in the forum. Lots of this done in advance of finding out if we'd even get a room at the show.

Followed all the threads about how to apply for a room etc., found out we were successful then mild concern about if it was a good idea or not. We had a tiny room allocated which wouldn't suit the system so (and this might be considered a mistake!), convinced James to let us have one of the bigger syndicate rooms on the 2nd floor which James had initially left out of his planning - maybe he's had to help others carry their speakers up there before!

About 6 weeks in advance, disconnected the streamer from the network and NAS at home and hooked it up to an independent network along with the laptop and the HDD - had it up and running in about 10 minutes which was a great relief that it would be quite so easy. Took final decision not to even attempt to set up wifi and tablet control of the system, being concerned about wifi interference etc. in a strange environment. KISS principle applied here. Worked on checklist of stuff, finalised playlist (created an album called "Demo Tracks" and copied the relevant tracks in there, then all we needed to do was select tracks from that album or just let it play) and put the data onto the HDD. Arranged with Richard to have spare laptop with software installed and created another copy of the music on a separate HDD as back ups.

2 weeks before we finalised times for travelling, agreed on who was going to fund what, etc. More jitters about if the system was going to sound any good. Worried about insurance for a while, decided it was too complicated and that Richard would sleep in the hotel room and that I would take an airbed and sleeping bag so I could sleep in the exhibiting room.

Friday before the show and all the boxes had to be brought down from the loft and the kit dusted and packed into them. Chose to do this on Friday so that Saturday morning would be free to spend with the kids. Richard arrived about 2pm and we set about packing the car. Crisis! Too much stuff to fit in! We had a couple of receivers to drop off with wammers, so these were the first thing we thought about leaving behind, but it turned out that by unpacking the Isoplats from their box, we were able to wrap them in plastic bags and slot them into various little gaps in the car. With a bit of re-jigging of what went where and some pillows and cushions for packing we managed to squeeze everything in and once the doors were shut then everything was solidly located with no chance of anything flying forward under braking. Kit included laptops, HDDs, equipment rack, Isoplats, cables (with at least one more of each for ethernet, interconnects, power etc.), system, bedding, tools, soldering iron, stuff I'd sold, some CDs to give away, bottles of water, snacks etc. etc.

After a 2.5 hour drive, arrive at Scalford and get a prime spot outside the front door - result! It was easy to get sorted with room keys etc., only we were given the keys to the correct room number but it wasn't the room on the show guide. A quick chat with James and we decided to go with the room that was on the show guide rather than the correct room number to keep it easy for visitors to find us (or avoid us of course!). Keys swapped and unpacking began. That was the real hard work - 2 flights of stairs were hard work. We must have made a good 10 trips up and down, if not more. Its good exercise this exhibiting stuff! Much consumption of water. Took about an hour to unpack boxes and return them to the car, then system build time (top tip - if you value the finish on your system, remove rings and watches before unpacking). Wiring up and testing took another hour but all went very straightforward. We dumped the flipchart and one of the tables on the first floor landing with other such stuff and arranged the room. Then listened to the system and did some basic set up. Then decided the seats were too close to the system so then we re-arranged the room and finalised positioning. Happy enough with the sound - maybe a touch bassy with the bouncy floor and the cardboard end wall.

Knackered.

Time for chilli and beer - rather good Doom Bar real ale and a good natter with other exhibitors around the tables. Chilli OK, but would've liked some pudding! Did a bit more room tidying and put up the playlists and kit lists on the wall, built my bed etc. Then messed about with the Wychwood interconnect and called on our neighbours such as Lodgesound, LencoHeaven and Pluto to see what they were up to and introduce ourselves. All very friendly. Down to the bar just in time to find that the band had just finished - very disappointed to have missed them. Richard off to bed around 11pm, I had another wander around some of the rooms to have a listen (including the insane amount of bass from the monster horny system playing Yello's "Expert") and a chat with a few wammers. Relieved to find that they're all a friendly bunch, somewhat in contrast to online behaviour!

Crash out about 12:30 and listen to monster bass in the distance for about 40 mins when a curfew seemed to be declared. Slept moderately well - still stuff going around in my head about if anyone would actually come to listen to the system, what the reactions would be, what would go wrong etc.

Visitors started arriving about 9:45 and we had 2 or 3 at a time until about 10:15 when the room filled up and pretty much stayed that way until about 4:30pm. Sometimes there wasn't even standing room and folks looked in then moved on as there just wasn't room. Played music pretty much non-stop all day - tried to avoid any silence if possible. Even with playlists on the seats and signs on the wall saying "ask for what you want to hear" you still have to prompt visitors to ask for stuff. We probably played about 50% of tracks that were requested. Hopefully we introduced some little known tracks (e.g. Kiki Dee's live acoustic version of Dont Go Breaking My Heart, Nils Lofgren Acoustic Live, some lesser known Yello tracks, Blues Company (the most played tracks of the day)) and many of these had visitors making notes or taking photos of the monitor we had showing the currently playing track. Richard had a good few hours to visit other rooms, I managed about 90 minutes and thoroughly enjoyed that bit too.

Liked the visitors positive comments, happy to have visitors who smiled, nodded or said thanks on their way out. Disappointed with visitors who can't even be bothered to acknowledge you exist as they leave the room. Even if you think the system sounds rubbish, as a visitor it shouldn't be too much work to say thank you to exhibitors who put in so much time, cash and effort for your benefit (rant over). The day flies by, and I really enjoy such unbroken listening - just don't get the chance to do that at home very often. We had many re-visits and some folks who stayed in the room for a good length of time. There was much discussion through the day on explaining how the system works - where the data is, how it gets to the streamer, how the active crossovers work with the power amps and speakers etc. etc. - there seemed to be some genuine interest in all that stuff. I think perhaps a diagram on the whiteboard would've been a good idea.

Visitors fade around 4.45 with only a couple of determined re-visits to entertain. Started packing up spot on 5pm and after many more trips up and down 2 flights of stairs, we were ready to go by about 6-15pm, so a very speedy process compared to setting up. Keeping control of the speakers on the way down the stairs was a bit of a challenge. Trip back was a bit quicker at 2 hours 15, so we got to say goodnight to the kids before bedtime.

Observations on exhibiting: if you've ever considered exhibiting but had cold feet, hesitate no longer - get your name on the list as soon as possible for 2014. Its hard work, but if you do good prep it should be a very enjoyable experience. Go Saturday, even if you don't set up until Sunday morning as the atmosphere is excellent and as an exhibitor you get the chance to hear some of the rooms on Saturday night, meaning you at least get to do some visiting, even if you don't get the time on Sunday. Wammers are really friendly people and are not at all the abusive vitiriolic lot they appear to be from the forum. Everyone is happy to chip in. If you want to have a long chat about how a system works, perhaps its best to step out into the corridor for a couple of minutes to avoid disturbing the listeners? Take handouts of your playlist and make sure you encourage your visitors to select some music - make sure that the list is as wide ranging as possible, within the boundaries of your collection. Best if there's at least 2 of you for carrying and to take turns looking after visitors during the day on Sunday.

Wednesday, 6 March 2013

Scalford Hall Hifi Show Playlist 2013

Here's the playlist we used at Scalford Hall, about 50% of tracks played were requested from this list, the rest Richard and I just selected as we went along:

Artist Track Genre
Afterlife Makes Me Feel Electronic
Ane Brun Words Folk/Rock
Ane Brun Worship (Feat. Jose Gonzalez) Folk/Rock
Annie Lennox Why Pop
Art Of Noise Moments In Love Electronica
Black Sabbath Planet Caravan Hard Rock
Blues Company Cold Rain Blues
Blues Company Dark Day Blues
Blues Company Red Blood Blues
Brendan Perry Death Will Be My Bride Folk
Brendan Perry Medusa Folk
Chris Rea Looking For A Rainbow Rock
Chris Rea Texas Rock
Damien Rice Cannonball Folk/Rock
Damien Rice Cold Water Folk/Rock
Damien Rice Delicate Folk/Rock
Damien Rice Volcano Folk/Rock
Dave Brubeck Quartet Take Five Jazz
Dead Can Dance Agape Folk
Dead Can Dance All In Good Time Folk
Dead Can Dance American dreaming Folk
Dead Can Dance Amnesia Folk
Dead Can Dance Anabasis Folk
Dead Can Dance Children Of The Sun Folk
Dead Can Dance Opium Folk
Dead Can Dance The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove (Remastered) Folk
Dean Fraser Big Up/Armageddon Time Jazz/Reggae
Dean Fraser Dick Tracy Jazz/Reggae
Death On The Balcony Them 3 Words (Original) Electronic
Dire Straits Fade to Black Rock
Dire Straits Planet of New Orleans Rock
Eagles Hotel California [Live] Rock
Eddi Reader Dear John Folk
Eddi Reader Hello In There Folk
Elbow Asleep In The Back Indie
Elbow Mirrorball Indie
Elbow One Day Like This Indie
Emily Barker Nostalgia Folk
Eric Clapton Layla Blues
Eric Prydz Pjano (Dana Berquist & Peder G Remix) Electronic
Erykah Badu Next Lifetime R&B

Artist Track Genre
Erykah Badu Rimshot (Intro) R&B
Eva Cassidy Fields Of Gold Folk/Rock
Fac15 Stay With Me Til Dawn Electronic
Fleetwood Mac Go Your Own Way Rock
Fleetwood Mac The Chain Rock
Ganga Don't Wake Me Up Electronica
Ganga Down But Up Electronica
Ganga You Are My Sun Electronica
Gare Du Nord Pablos Blues House
Georges-Emmanuel Lazaridis Grandes Etudes de Paganini Etude III Classical
Goldfrapp Let It Take You Away Electronica
Goldfrapp Ooh La La Electronica
Gorillaz Superfast Jellyfish Pop
Gotye Don't Worry We'll Be Watching You Indie/Rock
Gotye Puzzle With A Piece Missing Indie/Rock
Gotye State Of The Art Indie/Rock
Holly Cole Train song Rock
Hue & Cry Makin' Whoopee Jazz
Ian Shaw A Case of You Jazz
Ian Shaw A Good And Simple Man Jazz
Ian Shaw Barangrill Jazz
It's Immaterial Driving Away From Home (Jims Tune) Pop
Jakatta American Dream (Afterlife Mix) Electronica
James Taylor Gaia Folk/Rock
Jay Fisher Old Man McKeensley Folk/Rock
Jennifer Warnes Big Noise, New York Pop
Jennifer Warnes Way Down Deep Pop
Jenny Lewis Bad Man's World Country
Jenny Lewis Pretty Bird Country
Jesca Hoop Peacemaker Alternative
Joan Armatrading Love And Affection Soul/Rock
Joe Bonamassa Feelin' Good Blues/Rock
John Lee Hooker The Healer (with Carlos Santana & The Santana Band) Blues
John Martyn A Little Strange Folk/Rock
John Martyn Feel So Good Folk/Rock
John Martyn Sunshine's Better Folk/Rock
José González Crosses Acoustic
Justin Currie No, Surrender Rock
k.d. Lang Constant Craving Country
Kaiser Chiefs Everything Is Average Nowadays Indie
Kaiser Chiefs Ruby Indie

Artist Track Genre
Kate Bush Lake Tahoe Alternative
Kate Bush Misty Alternative
Keb’ Mo’ For What It's Worth Jazz
Keb’ Mo’ Wake Up Everybody Jazz
Keb’ Mo’ What's Happening Brother Jazz
Kiki Dee Amoureuse Folk
Kiki Dee Don't Go Breaking My Heart Folk
Lux So La Ra Dsa Electronica
Lyle Lovett North Dakota Alternative Country
Lyle Lovett Penguins Alternative Country
Lyle Lovett Record Lady Alternative Country
Lyle Lovett She's Already Made Up Her Mind Alternative Country
Marta Gomez Lucia Folk
Massive Attack Three Electronic
Michael Jackson Liberian Girl Pop
Millenia Nova Beautiful Electronica
Nalin & Kane Beachball (Joris Voorn Remix) Electronic
Nick Drake 'Cello Song Folk
Nick Drake Fly Folk
Nick Harper The Kilty Stone Folk/Rock
Nils Lofgren Black Books Folk/Rock
Nils Lofgren Keith Don't Go Folk/Rock
Nils Lofgren Wonderland Folk/Rock
Nitin Sawhney Broken Skin Fusion
Nitin Sawhney Letting Go Fusion
Nitin Sawhney Nothing Fusion
Pete Alderton (She Said That) Evil Was Her Name Blues
Pete Alderton Jesus In A Bottle Blues
Pete Alderton Passing Ships Blues
Pete Alderton Song For David (alternative version) Blues
Peter Gabriel Don't Give Up Folk/Rock
Peter Gabriel Mercy Street Folk/Rock
Peyton Falling (EK's Poolside Mix) House
Renegade Creation Bullet Blues
Renegade Creation Nazareth Blues
Renegade Creation Too Much Of Nothin' Blues
Richard Thompson Easy There, Steady Now Folk/Rock
Richard Thompson Mingus Eyes Folk/Rock
Robben Ford Make Me Your Only One Blues
Robben Ford Peace Love And Understanding Blues
Robben Ford & The Blue Line I Don't Play Blues

Artist Track Genre
Robben Ford & The Blue Line Mystic Mile Blues
Royksopp Sparks Drum & Bass
Royksopp What Else Is There (Trentemoller Remix) Drum & Bass
Sam Cooke Chain Gang Jazz
Sam Cooke Cupid Jazz
Samantha James Breathe You In Electronica
Samantha James Right Now Electronica
Samantha James Rise Electronica
Sarah McLachlan Hold On Folk/Rock
Sarah McLachlan Ice Folk/Rock
Sarah McLachlan Sweet Surrender (DJ Tiesto Mix) Folk/Rock
Sarah McLachlan Wait Folk/Rock
Schiller Das Glockenspiel (Schill Out Mix) Electronica
Seal Kiss From A Rose Soul
Semisonic Closing Time Rock
Semisonic Secret Smile Rock
Shawn Colvin Kill The Messenger Rock
Shawn Colvin Polaroids Rock
Silverchair Israel's Son Grunge
Sinead O'Connor Nothing Compares 2 U Folk
Slovo Killing Me Electronica
Slovo Whisper Electronica
Solu The Way I Feel (Extended Mix) House
Solu Music Featuring Kimblee Fade (Full 12 Vocal)" House
Steely Dan Babylon Sisters Jazz/Rock
Steely Dan Cousin Dupree Jazz/Rock
Steely Dan Hey Nineteen Jazz/Rock
Steely Dan Two Against Nature Jazz/Rock
Steely Dan What A Shame About Me Crossover
Stéphane Pompougnac (with Nicole Graham) Eden Lounge
Stéphane Pompougnac feat. Charles Schillings Sunday Drive (Remix) Lounge
Stephen Fearing Carsten Folk
Stephen Fearing Dublin Bay Folk
Stephen Fearing Out To Sea Folk
Stephen Fearing Welfare Wednesday Folk
Sun Kil Moon Half Moon Bay Acoustic
Sun Kil Moon Third And Seneca Acoustic
Swing Out Sister Breakout Pop
Talking Heads Road To Nowhere Pop
Tchaikovsky 'Dance Of The Reeds' From The Nutcracker Classical
Tears For Fears Mad World Pop

Artist Track Genre
Terri Walker This Is My Time Pop
The Australian Pink Floyd Show Time Rock
The Black Keys Dead And Gone Blues/Rock
The Black Keys Lonely Boy Blues/Rock
The Black Keys Sister Blues/Rock
The Black Smoke Organisation Danger Global & Warming (Trentemoller Remix) Electronic
The Blue Nile Let's Go Out Tonight Rock
The Blue Nile The Downtown Lights Rock
The Brand New Heavies Boogie (Eric Kupper Mix) Dance
The Cardigans Erase/Rewind Pop
The Chemical Brothers Galaxy Bounce Electronic
The Chemical Brothers Hoops Electronic
The Farm All Together Now Pop
The Jeff Healey Band Blue Jean Blues Blues
The Killers Human Indie
The Memory Band Why Electronic
The Ray Gelato Giants Exactly Like You Swing
The Ray Gelato Giants That Old Black Magic Swing
The Ray Gelato Giants Up A Lazy River Swing
The Wailin' Jennys All The Stars Folk
The Wailin' Jennys Bird Song Folk
The Wailin' Jennys Swing Low Sail High Folk
The Zutons Valerie Other
Thea Gilmore Bad Moon Rising Folk/Rock
Thea Gilmore Coffee And Roses Folk/Rock
Thea Gilmore Ever Fallen In Love Folk/Rock
Thea Gilmore God's Got Nothing On You Folk/Rock
Thea Gilmore Icarus Wind Folk/Rock
Thea Gilmore The Old Laughing Lady Folk/Rock
Thievery Corporation Amerimacka Electronica
Thievery Corporation The Richest Man In Babylon Electronica
Thievery Corporation Until The Morning Electronica
Thievery Corporation feat. Emiliana Torrini Heaven's Gonna Burn Your Eyes Electronica
Tiny Tunes Will You Catch Me (Twin Tunes Mix Edit) Electronica
Tom Baxter Night Like This Jazz
Tom Baxter Skybound Jazz
Tom Jones Thunderball Soundtrack
Tom Robinson The End Of The Rainbow Folk/Rock
Tomboy Flamingo (Trentemoller Remix) Electronic
Trentemoller Evil Dub Electronic
Trentemoller Vamp Electronic

Artist Track Genre
T-Rex Get It On Pop
U2 Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me Rock
U2 In A Little While (N.O.W Remix) Rock
Underworld Banstyle, Sappys Curry Electronica
Underworld Sola Sistim Electronica
Underworld Twist Electronica
Underworld feat. Dockhead Choir, Dame Everlyn Glennie, Only Men Alound, Elizabeth Roberts, Esme Smith, Alex Trimble Caliban's Dream Electronica
Wamdue Project Feat. Jonathan Mendelsohn Forgiveness (Beach Angel '07 Mix) House
Was (Not Was) Papa Was A Rolling Stone Pop
Weekend Players 21st Century House
Willie Nelson What Is It You Wanted Rock
Willy Porter Cool Water Folk
Willy Porter Jesus on the Grille Folk
Wyclef Jean Ft. Mary J. Blige 911 (LP Version) R&B
X-Press 2 Lazy (Original) House
Yello Celsius Electronic
Yello Drive / Driven Electronic
Yello Friday Smile Electronic
Yello Get On Electronic
Yello Indigo Bay Electronic
Yello Junior B Electronic
Yello Kiss In Blue (Feat. Heidi Happy) Electronic
Yello Ocean Club Electronic
Yello Otto Di Catania Electronic
Yello Petro Oleum Electronic
Yello Stay (Feat. Heidi Happy) Electronic
Yello The Rhythm Divine Electronic
Yello Till Tomorrow (Feat. Till Brönner) Electronic
Yello Time Freeze Electronic
Yello To The Sea Electronic
Yello X-Race Electronic
Yello feat. Dorothee Oberlinger Takla Makan Electronic
Zero 7 Destiny Electronica
Zero 7 Give It Away Electronica
Zero 7 In The Waiting Line Electronica