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Fully functioning, very substantial near top of the range Mission 752 speakers for sale.
Look here if you're interested: http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?111564-Mission-752-Speakers-in-Rosewood
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Friday, 3 October 2014
Tunes In The Garage
Assembling cheap but good secondhand stuff, listening for a while and selling on is part of how I keep my urgings to change kit in the main system at bay.
The main system stays relatively static, with the occaissional step forward when funds allow, but messing about with old stuff that was well respected in its day allows for the sampling of lots of kit whilst not breaking the bank. Some of it sells for less than I paid, some for more and some for about the same. Rough with the smooth and all that.
Then there are the bits that hang around for a bit longer. They're still cheap, but are worth slotting into music somewhere about the house.
So here's the current system in the garage. Listening to tunes when working on the car or the bikes or just tidying the place up makes the work seem less arduous. Plus, during the winter, I'll plug the laptop into the system and watch some DVDs or cycling vids on YouTube whilst I try and become less unfit with the bike on the turbo trainer
So this £250 system consists of Squeezebox Touch (connected to QNAP NAS via Ethernet over mains), NAD 1240 pre-amp, NAD 2155 power amp and Mission 773e speakers (the earlier version with the leather look baffle trim. Speakers hang from a shelf on the rafters, hence they're upside down. This keeps them off the floor (which is good as that's a pretty in-hospitable environment - both for water when the car comes in wet and the danger of being kicked / damaged by box shifting etc). They're upside down as they are floor standing speakers, so the theory is that the large shelf on the rafters is acting as though they were standing on a floor.
The main system stays relatively static, with the occaissional step forward when funds allow, but messing about with old stuff that was well respected in its day allows for the sampling of lots of kit whilst not breaking the bank. Some of it sells for less than I paid, some for more and some for about the same. Rough with the smooth and all that.
Then there are the bits that hang around for a bit longer. They're still cheap, but are worth slotting into music somewhere about the house.
So here's the current system in the garage. Listening to tunes when working on the car or the bikes or just tidying the place up makes the work seem less arduous. Plus, during the winter, I'll plug the laptop into the system and watch some DVDs or cycling vids on YouTube whilst I try and become less unfit with the bike on the turbo trainer
So this £250 system consists of Squeezebox Touch (connected to QNAP NAS via Ethernet over mains), NAD 1240 pre-amp, NAD 2155 power amp and Mission 773e speakers (the earlier version with the leather look baffle trim. Speakers hang from a shelf on the rafters, hence they're upside down. This keeps them off the floor (which is good as that's a pretty in-hospitable environment - both for water when the car comes in wet and the danger of being kicked / damaged by box shifting etc). They're upside down as they are floor standing speakers, so the theory is that the large shelf on the rafters is acting as though they were standing on a floor.
Friday, 12 September 2014
Parasound - 12 Channels of Flexible Power
Respected home cinema specialist Parasound have launched a 12 channel power amp this week.
This is interesting due to the way the channels are independently configurable and can be mixed and matched for 12 independent channels or lower channel count with some of the modules bridged for more power. More details via the announcement at WHF magazine.
Flexible and future proofed for multi-channel or for actively driving multi-driver speakers (with a suitable active crossover of course).
http://www.whathifi.com/news/parasound-launches-12-channel-amplifier-cedia-expo
This is interesting due to the way the channels are independently configurable and can be mixed and matched for 12 independent channels or lower channel count with some of the modules bridged for more power. More details via the announcement at WHF magazine.
Flexible and future proofed for multi-channel or for actively driving multi-driver speakers (with a suitable active crossover of course).
http://www.whathifi.com/news/parasound-launches-12-channel-amplifier-cedia-expo
Monday, 18 August 2014
Musings Goes Analogue Part 3 - RD11s Build
See Part 1 here
Part 2 here
Having had some experience messing about with set up several times on a Thorens TD160BC MkII with different arms and platter mats (very successfully), and with an LP12 (not so successfully - got it close but ended up at a Linn dealer for a full service and set up), I approached the RD11s reasonably confidently, but also in the knowledge that if set up was a problem I'd just do a bit more research and then go back to it. This is a project for fun and experience building, not as a serious source for my system.
So here's the starting point, a several decades old plinth, suspension and motor unit, sourced through the classifieds at hifiwigwam.com:
Sitting on the workbench in the garage, I started by giving it a quick clean, which wasn't too hard as its in such great condition and came packed with copious amounts of bubble wrap and with the bearing plugged, inner platter and main platter removed, as it should be.
The underside of the deck has no base plate - its lost this somewhere in its no doubt long and varied life. Still, I think this could be a good thing on 2 counts - first it means easy access to all the relevant suspension adjustment options, secondly, because it is no longer effectively a box, there should be less chance of resonances building up inside which may affect the sound quality.
First was to check the alignment and fitment of the newly arrived soundsupports.com SME to Rega armboard adapter.
The RB202 is reasonably well made - its very recognisably part of the Rega RB250 family. The arm tube is nicely cast, the bearings are super smooth with no discernable play and the cueing mechanism is smoothly damped and feels much more expensive than some I've used. Looks like the main compromises to save money are the plastic moulded thread counterweight mounting and the basic looking captive signal output lead, which looks to be no better than the kind of freebie interconnects you tend to get inside Japanese hifi component boxes.
In order to reduce stress on the tonearm bearings, once the armboard was mounted to the arm, the cartridge was unpacked and installed to the arm, with the mounting bolts only tightened enough to hold the cartridge in roughly the right place. The stylus guard and stylus were removed prior to fitting the cartridge body to the arm. The bolts that came with the cartridge were used for this - they're metal, unlike some budget cartridges that come with very flimsy plastic bolts. The signal cables were connected too, using the correct colour matching of each cable to the each pin on the back of the cart.
Next up, using ISOkinetic supplied oil, I ensured that all the existing oil was soaked up into kitchen towel and then refilled with the new oil. Before fitting the inner platter I laid a small amount of kitchen towel around the bearing to catch any overflow - of which there wasn't any.
Having given the inner platter edges, outer platter engagement surface and the spindle a clean with alcohol and then a polish with a dry lint-free cloth, the inner platter was gently lowered into the bearing shaft - being careful not to "drop" it into the hole which could damage the bearing surfaces. The last few mm of travel took about 10 seconds or so as the oil was pushed out of the way. No excess oil at this point, so I'll remove it again later and put a little more oil in there.
The belt was then installed - fitting around the smaller part of the stepped pulley for 33rpm, then wrapping around the outer edge of the inner platter. Unlike every belt driven turntable I've worked on / owned in the past which had flat ground belts, the RD11s uses a very narrow (2-3mm) square section belt, which is extremely easy to twist during fitting. I took care not to touch the belt and inner platter surfaces to avoid getting finger grease in there. Then on went the outer platter (which weighs around 2.5 kg).
The outer platter should force the suspension down and allow the platter / bearing / subchassis / armboard / tonearm assembly to "float" freely whilst hanging from the suspension springs. However, the previous owner had diligently wound up the suspension springs pretty tightly to avoid any movement in transit, so although the assembly did drop a little, it was still a long way up above the top plate of the deck.
Setting up and first play is in Part 4.
Part 3 is here
Part 2 is here
Part 1 is here
Part 2 here
Having had some experience messing about with set up several times on a Thorens TD160BC MkII with different arms and platter mats (very successfully), and with an LP12 (not so successfully - got it close but ended up at a Linn dealer for a full service and set up), I approached the RD11s reasonably confidently, but also in the knowledge that if set up was a problem I'd just do a bit more research and then go back to it. This is a project for fun and experience building, not as a serious source for my system.
So here's the starting point, a several decades old plinth, suspension and motor unit, sourced through the classifieds at hifiwigwam.com:
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| Starting point - an Ariston Audio RD11s |
Sitting on the workbench in the garage, I started by giving it a quick clean, which wasn't too hard as its in such great condition and came packed with copious amounts of bubble wrap and with the bearing plugged, inner platter and main platter removed, as it should be.
The underside of the deck has no base plate - its lost this somewhere in its no doubt long and varied life. Still, I think this could be a good thing on 2 counts - first it means easy access to all the relevant suspension adjustment options, secondly, because it is no longer effectively a box, there should be less chance of resonances building up inside which may affect the sound quality.
First was to check the alignment and fitment of the newly arrived soundsupports.com SME to Rega armboard adapter.
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| Armboard adapter offered up to the existing SME mount |
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| ISOkinetic (Rega) RB202 tonearm, unpacked from its box. Note the low cost "captive" arm lead to carry the signal to the pre-amp |
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| Armboard fitted to the three-point mounting with countersunk bolts |
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| Unboxing the Goldring Elektra Cartridge |
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| Stylus removed from cartridge body prior to mounting |
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| Cart loosely mounted in the headshell and connected up |
Next up, using ISOkinetic supplied oil, I ensured that all the existing oil was soaked up into kitchen towel and then refilled with the new oil. Before fitting the inner platter I laid a small amount of kitchen towel around the bearing to catch any overflow - of which there wasn't any.
Having given the inner platter edges, outer platter engagement surface and the spindle a clean with alcohol and then a polish with a dry lint-free cloth, the inner platter was gently lowered into the bearing shaft - being careful not to "drop" it into the hole which could damage the bearing surfaces. The last few mm of travel took about 10 seconds or so as the oil was pushed out of the way. No excess oil at this point, so I'll remove it again later and put a little more oil in there.
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| Inner platter installed |
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| Arm and complete platter installed - note the huge gap between platter and top plate |
Setting up and first play is in Part 4.
Part 3 is here
Part 2 is here
Part 1 is here
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Wednesday, 13 August 2014
Musings Goes Analogue Part 2 - Ariston RD11s Basics
Following on from the first post in this short series.
The first deck up for comparison is an Ariston Audio RD11s.
Do a Google image search for Ariston RD11 and you'll get a lot of pictures of what looks like a Linn Sondek LP12, like this one:
This is probably because of their shared origins, as explained in articles such as this one (note, I don't know the accuracy of content from external sites, posting here for interest):
Is It An Ariston Or Is It A Linn?
The main difference between the designs seems to pivot around the bearing design (sorry for the pun). Linn's is a very expensive to make single point design, the Ariston uses a captive ball bearing in much the same way as many many other turntables.
Anyway, I don't have an original RD11. I have the slightly later (and manufactured in a different factory to the LP12) RD11s produced by Ariston Audio, rather than Ariston - the s stands for "superior", apparently. See the link above to read a bit of history on the Ariston name /company. For £140 in very good condition with a nicely kept lid, it fits right into the plan to try a low cost but more credible turntable in the system, with scope to play.
This deck has a kite shaped suspended sub-chassis, three suspension springs, an AC motor, captive ball main bearing and a small circular armboard which is currently cut for the SME style mounting. The belt is square section and the speed is changed by moving the belt between the stepped pulleys. It comes with a lightly smoked plastic hinged dust cover and is in remarkable condition for something that is several decades old.
There's no arm so I tracked down a new Rega RB202 which is a low cost, "OEM" version of the RB250. This was supplied by ISOKinetic who also supplied me with some fresh oil for the turntable bearing. But then the deck is fitted with an SME armboard, so something needed to change to accommodate the Rega mount arm.
Through the help of the big hifi tent - hifiwigwam.com - I discovered Sound Supports who can supply a SME to Rega armboard converter. So this was ordered up and duly arrived. However, it's designed for the older single post mounting arms, not the 3 point mounting design of the RB202. I really must say that Sound Supports were absolutely superb in handling this. They asked for dimensions information and I sent off the pictures below:
Along with the pictures I returned the armboard and what came back was this, pre-drilled, threaded armboard complete with the mounting bolts which fits the deck and the arm perfectly:
Absolutely superb service from Sound Supports - highly recommended.
The next post will deal with the build and set up of the RD11s - Part 3 is here. Part 4 is here
The first deck up for comparison is an Ariston Audio RD11s.
Do a Google image search for Ariston RD11 and you'll get a lot of pictures of what looks like a Linn Sondek LP12, like this one:
| Ariston RD11 with Rega Arm (but judging by the hole in the armboard, its probably had a Linn Ittok fitted at some time - image from www.canuckaudiomart.com) |
This is probably because of their shared origins, as explained in articles such as this one (note, I don't know the accuracy of content from external sites, posting here for interest):
Is It An Ariston Or Is It A Linn?
The main difference between the designs seems to pivot around the bearing design (sorry for the pun). Linn's is a very expensive to make single point design, the Ariston uses a captive ball bearing in much the same way as many many other turntables.
Anyway, I don't have an original RD11. I have the slightly later (and manufactured in a different factory to the LP12) RD11s produced by Ariston Audio, rather than Ariston - the s stands for "superior", apparently. See the link above to read a bit of history on the Ariston name /company. For £140 in very good condition with a nicely kept lid, it fits right into the plan to try a low cost but more credible turntable in the system, with scope to play.
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| Ariston Audio RD11s |
This deck has a kite shaped suspended sub-chassis, three suspension springs, an AC motor, captive ball main bearing and a small circular armboard which is currently cut for the SME style mounting. The belt is square section and the speed is changed by moving the belt between the stepped pulleys. It comes with a lightly smoked plastic hinged dust cover and is in remarkable condition for something that is several decades old.
There's no arm so I tracked down a new Rega RB202 which is a low cost, "OEM" version of the RB250. This was supplied by ISOKinetic who also supplied me with some fresh oil for the turntable bearing. But then the deck is fitted with an SME armboard, so something needed to change to accommodate the Rega mount arm.
Through the help of the big hifi tent - hifiwigwam.com - I discovered Sound Supports who can supply a SME to Rega armboard converter. So this was ordered up and duly arrived. However, it's designed for the older single post mounting arms, not the 3 point mounting design of the RB202. I really must say that Sound Supports were absolutely superb in handling this. They asked for dimensions information and I sent off the pictures below:
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| Arm and post mount armboard resting in place to show positioning |
Along with the pictures I returned the armboard and what came back was this, pre-drilled, threaded armboard complete with the mounting bolts which fits the deck and the arm perfectly:
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| Drilled / threaded armboard in position on the deck |
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| Arm and board mounted on the deck. Position is the correct 222mm from the spindle and the arm sits parallel to the side of the deck when parked |
The next post will deal with the build and set up of the RD11s - Part 3 is here. Part 4 is here
Musings Goes Analogue - Part One
Regular readers will know that the Musings home system is dominated by streaming, using a Linn Klimax DS as the main source. Prior to streaming the main sources were a mix of CD using a Meridian 508.20 and vinyl on a Linn Sondek LP12 / Ittok / Dynavector 20HX. Both of these primary sources were sold to fund the Linn streamer as it offered a far better musical experience than either CD or vinyl.
I then sold the majority of vinyl to fund the purchase of the Majik 140 speakers, but retained a few albums that are either of sentimental value or are part of a small collection which took a while to build. So a turntable was still required for those very rare occasions when I wanted to play one of those albums, or someone else brought some vinyl along to sample some music. Besides, any decent system needs a turntable or it just doesn't seem complete to me (now, pass me the pipe and slippers please...). So a few weeks of browsing on ebay netted a very dusty but fully functional Thorens TD280 MkII which I cleaned up and fitted with a brand new Goldring Elektra MM cartridge. The cart cost nearly 3 times what I paid for the deck, even though its very much a budget cart! There's a bit more information on the Thorens in this post. So Thorens is the current state of vinyl replay in the system. Its very much a plastic, low cost, functional piece of kit that makes a reasonable sound and nothing more.
The Thorens is very much plug and play - you put it on the table, hook up the belt, set up the cartridge and away you go. It even has auto lift / stop at the end of play. It looks respectable and descreet, so I suppose it fulfils my needs for a turntable pretty well. And yet...
Although the streamer is an amazing piece of kit - producing the best SQ I've heard in several systems, once you've spent time (around 18 months of elapsed time in my case) ripping CDs, correcting metadata, sourcing good quality album art etc. etc., its a pretty uninteresting bit of hifi. There's nothing to mess about with, it just gets on with the job of playing music superbly, and looking pretty (to my eyes at least). Turntables are more interactive and involving (I mean physically, not necessarily musically).
Here's the premise then: is there a low cost way to mess about with a "proper" turntable for a while, something that is more in keeping with the rest of the system, that doesn't break the bank and offers the opportunity to "mess about a bit" with it as a piece of kit? And how will it compare to the super budget priced Thorens?
Some will know about the controversy that surrounds the birth of the Sondek LP12 turntable. I think there's less doubt that Ivor Tiefenbrun really lead the "source first" campaign in the hifi World in the mid 1970s and his LP12 turntable definitely contributed to that message. But there is more controversy about how original the LP12 design is, when it looks so conceptually and mechanically similar to the original AR turntable. And the Thorens turntables. And the Ariston turntables. Now I wasn't interested in hifi at the time (I was more interested in riding my bike, playing cops and robbers and avoiding kids who wanted to play football at the time) so I wasn't there and I don't know the whole story, but it adds a bit of context.
What happened next was the availability on the market of a couple of very reasonably priced turntables that just happened to come from the same manufacturer. Both are suspended sub-chassis designs with precision bearings, a wood plinth and a stainless steel top plate. Both also have high mass platters and belt drive from an AC motor. But given that the LP12 retains its value ridiculously well, neither of these turntables are from Linn. In fact, they are from Ariston Audio.
So I now have an RD11S turntable with no arm, and an RD80SL fitted with a Linn LVX (Basik) tonearm. I've sourced another 2 new Goldring Elektra cartridges, a Rega RB202 arm and some enthusiasm to build them up and to compare them against the Thorens.
I'll document in posts here about the builds of each turntable, then the comparisons between the 3 decks.
Part 2 here
Part 3 here
Part 4 here
| Linn LP12 on the left and Meridian 508.20 on the right - the peak of vinyl and CD in Musings' home system approx 3 years ago |
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| Current main source - Linn Klimax DS streamer |
I then sold the majority of vinyl to fund the purchase of the Majik 140 speakers, but retained a few albums that are either of sentimental value or are part of a small collection which took a while to build. So a turntable was still required for those very rare occasions when I wanted to play one of those albums, or someone else brought some vinyl along to sample some music. Besides, any decent system needs a turntable or it just doesn't seem complete to me (now, pass me the pipe and slippers please...). So a few weeks of browsing on ebay netted a very dusty but fully functional Thorens TD280 MkII which I cleaned up and fitted with a brand new Goldring Elektra MM cartridge. The cart cost nearly 3 times what I paid for the deck, even though its very much a budget cart! There's a bit more information on the Thorens in this post. So Thorens is the current state of vinyl replay in the system. Its very much a plastic, low cost, functional piece of kit that makes a reasonable sound and nothing more.
| Current state of vinyl replay - Thorens TD280 MkII and Goldring Elektra MM cartridge |
Although the streamer is an amazing piece of kit - producing the best SQ I've heard in several systems, once you've spent time (around 18 months of elapsed time in my case) ripping CDs, correcting metadata, sourcing good quality album art etc. etc., its a pretty uninteresting bit of hifi. There's nothing to mess about with, it just gets on with the job of playing music superbly, and looking pretty (to my eyes at least). Turntables are more interactive and involving (I mean physically, not necessarily musically).
Here's the premise then: is there a low cost way to mess about with a "proper" turntable for a while, something that is more in keeping with the rest of the system, that doesn't break the bank and offers the opportunity to "mess about a bit" with it as a piece of kit? And how will it compare to the super budget priced Thorens?
Some will know about the controversy that surrounds the birth of the Sondek LP12 turntable. I think there's less doubt that Ivor Tiefenbrun really lead the "source first" campaign in the hifi World in the mid 1970s and his LP12 turntable definitely contributed to that message. But there is more controversy about how original the LP12 design is, when it looks so conceptually and mechanically similar to the original AR turntable. And the Thorens turntables. And the Ariston turntables. Now I wasn't interested in hifi at the time (I was more interested in riding my bike, playing cops and robbers and avoiding kids who wanted to play football at the time) so I wasn't there and I don't know the whole story, but it adds a bit of context.
What happened next was the availability on the market of a couple of very reasonably priced turntables that just happened to come from the same manufacturer. Both are suspended sub-chassis designs with precision bearings, a wood plinth and a stainless steel top plate. Both also have high mass platters and belt drive from an AC motor. But given that the LP12 retains its value ridiculously well, neither of these turntables are from Linn. In fact, they are from Ariston Audio.
So I now have an RD11S turntable with no arm, and an RD80SL fitted with a Linn LVX (Basik) tonearm. I've sourced another 2 new Goldring Elektra cartridges, a Rega RB202 arm and some enthusiasm to build them up and to compare them against the Thorens.
I'll document in posts here about the builds of each turntable, then the comparisons between the 3 decks.
Part 2 here
Part 3 here
Part 4 here
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Tuesday, 12 August 2014
Linn Lounge - Chic
Being in London Village on the same evening of the latest Linn Lounge event gave me the opportunity to listen to an Akurate DSM and Akubariks. Aided by an England game in the World Football Cup thingummy, a ticket was reasonably easy to obtain. Daft Punk were on the menu.
The Kensington Studio is a long term Loewe and B&O dealership and has just opened a Linn section at the rear of their High Street showroom. The room is a sensible size and is something akin to a decent domestic living room. There is a Linn Majik / 109 system on the back wall and the Akurate system on the other wall, tonight complemented by a TV. A few light snacks were laid on.
I think the soccer ball game had taken its toll. Only 7 attendees. Hope this doesn't deter them from other events. The Linn presentation team were delayed at an install, so the shop team took us through the Daft Punk story, interlaced with music and video, including some unreleased promo stuff. Given their lack of rehearsals they did a great job.
Sound wise? I have to say that I was a little underwhelmed. The first time I heard Akubariks was on the end of (non-Exakt) Klimax electronics about 10 months ago and it was an excellent experience. The Akurate level DSM isn't expected to be as good, but it didn't wow me in the way I was expecting. I think the proximity of the speakers to the rear wall wasn't helping - the bass sounding a little less than fleet of foot.
Regular Musings readers will know that I dont get on with Linn's 350 speakers. Here, again, my view is that the Akubariks are just so much more musical and coherent in comparison. Unfairly, they particularly upstaged the Exakt 350s that played in a furniture shop in London just a few days earlier. I say unfairly because I think this was 10% down to the Akubariks and 90% down to the room this time!
Thanks to the Kensington studio and Linn for another musically educational evening.
Friday, 25 July 2014
Tuesday, 17 June 2014
Linn Lounge. Nile Rogers and Chic. In A Furniture Shop.
This post was a "live blog" with updates every 5 to 10 minutes, so it probably doesn't flow that well :-)
Kicking off with Daft Punk 'Get Lucky' sounding a bit boomy and lacking in sparkle. Oh hang on, someone must've just tweaked something as its just changed to something more acceptable...
A brief descriltion of Rogers' early life through to his first professional musician's role touring with Sesame Street. Then the late night studio sessions working out of hours because they couldn't afford the studio fees. Now playing 'Everybody Dance' in Studio Master. Lots of foot tapping going on, lots of chatting too. Its a very informal atmosphere.
Apologies for the sloping floor. Its not a problem with the shop. Might be related to the refreshments on offer though.
We're regaled with the tale of how Rogers and friend were refused back stage entry to a Grace Jones gig, how that lead to the track 'Le Freak' and how the lyrics had to change from the words of the bouncer that inspired the track.
'We Are Family' by Sister Sledge, from the album entirely written by Rogers and Bernard Edwards. They played on all the tracks and produced the album too.
Now 'Good Times' which is sounding a bit forced. Perhaps the system is a bit too loud now. Its a very big space to fill. The room is the full length of the shop and is 2 floors high along half the length. Surfaces are all hard, including the furniture. There's probably around 90 people here.
Learning lots here. Diana Ross's 'Upside Down' now playing. One of my earliest music choices where I stepped out from following my brother's musical path. Wasn't aware of the Chic link, but I've not really been one for pouring through sleeve notes. Another difference between us!
Now we're in the mid eighties with disco popularity waning and alcohol / drugs taking a greater role in Rogers' life. Another collaboration, this time with David Bowie produced the 'Let's Dance' album - the biggest selling album of Bowie's career.
More surprises. Duran Duran's 'The Reflex' playing now.
21 million albums sold. Working with Madonna produced the album 'Like A Virgin'. 'Nuf said.
After 2 years in rehab for Rogers, he and Edwards played together for the last time in 1996 just prior to Edwards' death. Now we're hearing about the sampling legacy. As the basis of hip-hop 'Good Times' was sampled for many tracks. I remember at the time how some artists embraced this, but many treated it as theft and lawsuits were flying.
Rogers is still touring now, with more gigs in 2012 than any previous year in his career. With Daft Punk of course. 'Move Yourself To Dance' is unfortunately demoing the 350's meandering bass though.
System tonight is KEDSM and Exakt 350a
Meanwhile, in the Matt White corner...
This is a better sounding system regardless of digital or vinyl source. Probably due to this corner of the showroom being more like a domestic room.
Interesting evening. So much about the music and the artists. No hifi speak. No tech speak. Just the music, relaxed atmosphere and drinks. Apparently 75% of the customers were from the shop's mailing list.
Thanks to Linn and Vitra for a very enjoyable evening. Now, about that design classic chair over there...
Monday, 16 June 2014
CRANAGE HALL AUDIO SHOW JUNE 2014 - General Thoughts
Great way to spend father's day this year. We travelled for an hour by Sunbeam Lotus, spent 4 hours together at the audio show then had a very agreeable lunch at The Crown in Goostrey. Another blast in the 'beam and we finished the day off back home with the original Pink Panther film and salt n black pepper popcorn. Best part was the kids agreeing to go along, but then really enjoying themseves too.
I think this is the best commercial show I've been to. The venue has many virtues. Its a great hotel with decent sized rooms, solid floors and walls, polite staff, very sensible tea and biscuit prices, spacious corridors, easy access from the M6 and, selfishly, only an hour from home.
This was the first run for this show. It was predominantly a dealer based show, with a few small manufacturers. This meant a good mix of products - dealers are free to choose combinations of systems they think work well whereas manufacturer based rooms are forced to use a one make system where possible and that sometimes means compromise. I think the lack of the major brands such as Cyrus, Marantz, Arcam, B&W etc., meant a more relaxed atmosphere too. I don't have anything against those brands but they already have the Bristol Show. Cranage would do well to court more dealers and the lesser visible brands, like it did today. Talk around the rooms included the prospects of a re-run next year, maybe as a 2 day event. Didn't manage to get to all the rooms today, but that was more down to it being Father's day and not wanting to take up the whole day but spend some time doing other stuff as a family too.
Best room for me was ELAC / Electrocompaniet - a combination of good sounds and almost realistic prices. The rest of the top 4 in no particular order were Systemdek / McIntosh / ART, Brian and Trevor's, and Purite North. In 5th place will be Audio Note. Most fun room goes to Soundkaos.
Must mention how well behaved our kids were, and great to get some engagement with them, particularly in 3 of the rooms with HiFi Network (ELAC / Electrocompaniet) selecting the right kind of music to get them hooked, without being asked.
So a good day - lets hope this show is going to be a permanent fixture on the calendar. Oh, and it was free entry too!
CRANAGE HALL AUDIO SHOW JUNE 2014 - Linn at Brian and Trevor's
Showcasing the latest iteration of Linn's Exakt digital crossover / room optimisation system with the Akubarik Exact loudspeakers, These accept an Exakt digital signal, digitally splits this into 5 different frequency bands, corrects for phase and timing distortions between and within each speaker drive unit, corrects for the actual measured manufacturing variances in each driver and then feeds each of the 5 bands to a dedicated power amplifier for each driver. This is all housed in the aluminium extruded housing down the back of the cabinet. Connections in the back are just a mains lead and an Exakt Cat 5 cable (its not ethernet, its proprietary). The speakers are reasonably compact and use a pair of isobaric loaded bass drivers facing downwards, helping to make the speakers less room boundary dependent. They're good looking, but I prefer the darker satin colours to the glossy examples on display today.
The electronics feeding the speakers is the Klimax Exakt DSM - its a streamer and pre-amp with mostly digital inputs. There is one analogue input which uses a very high quality 32 bit analogue to digital converter, so even the LP12 signal is digitised so the Exakt software can do its stuff with analogue too. By measuring the room dimensions the software can also reduce the appropriate low frequencies in the signal to help reduce boom.
Music was being played using the KEDSM as a streamer and from a top spec LP12 turntable. All the components were being fed by mains from PS Audio Perfect Wave power regenerators. These are not conditioners, they take the incoming distorted AC mains, turn it to DC, then regenerate a 240V 50Hz mains output without the distortion.
So how did all of this sound? Very Linn. Understated, controlled, detailed, musical and very tuneful. It doesn't leap out at you, but you can listen to it for hours. Occasionally it was a touch too loud and the LP12 was sounding suprisingly lightweight - very unusual. When playing at a sensible volume you could hear the benefits of Exakt with excellent imaging and no obvious timing issues. I did think that it would be a bigger improvement than it seems to deliver over the standard active Akubariks. This is probably due to the limitations of Akurate level DACs and amps that are somewhere between Majik and Akurate level all built into the back of the speakers. I'm thinking Klimax Exakt crossovers, external amps and passive Akubariks might bring a better (but even more expensive) result.
Decent sounds here, much better than the Linn sound at the Manchester airport show last year, and in the top 5 of rooms I heard at Cranage.
The electronics feeding the speakers is the Klimax Exakt DSM - its a streamer and pre-amp with mostly digital inputs. There is one analogue input which uses a very high quality 32 bit analogue to digital converter, so even the LP12 signal is digitised so the Exakt software can do its stuff with analogue too. By measuring the room dimensions the software can also reduce the appropriate low frequencies in the signal to help reduce boom.
Music was being played using the KEDSM as a streamer and from a top spec LP12 turntable. All the components were being fed by mains from PS Audio Perfect Wave power regenerators. These are not conditioners, they take the incoming distorted AC mains, turn it to DC, then regenerate a 240V 50Hz mains output without the distortion.
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| Left Top Down: LP12, KEDSM, Uphorik Phono Stage, but not sure what's on the lowest shelf. On the right is a PS Audio Perfect Wave P10 sitting on a PS Audio Power Base |
Decent sounds here, much better than the Linn sound at the Manchester airport show last year, and in the top 5 of rooms I heard at Cranage.
CRANAGE HALL AUDIO SHOW JUNE 2014 - Soundkaos
This was a fun room. Lots of unusual stuff in here. I can imagine those who enjoy a laid back cool jazz tune or the more easy listening end of the spectrum putting their feet up with a glass of wine or perhaps a G n T to chill out at the end of the day. Perhaps Adele or Zero 7?
So a first encounger with the latest Apple Mac with its shiny cylindrical box (surpisingly compact) and the usual very high quality large glossy screen - its a quality looking bit of kit. Here it was running JRiver media player to an optical output which was fed to the very small DAC. This fed to Bakoon amp with separate power supply. A class A/B design, its well made in the style of the Mac Mini. Looks like it should be a class D design based on its diminutive dimensions. From there the signal goes to the off-board crossovers shown below.
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| That's Not A Kettle |
Then to the speakers themselves. Taking an unusual approach and using instrument grade woods (baffle in spruce in this case) the theory goes that the wood is going to resonate so, rather than try to eliminate this, use known resonances in the design. The drive units and crossovers allow for the resonance so it becomes part of the soind, as designed in. The standard of finish is very high. The baffle even has a 'stone in a pond' ripple effect across the surface, centred on the mid-bass driver. The stands were not rigidly coupled to the floor. I suspect the boxes themselves are quite lightweight. Place your hand on the cabinet and you can feel it vibrating along with the drivers.
The room hosts really engaged with the kids, allowing them to choose some music. C went for Oh Yeah by Yello which was clearly a bit 'racy' for one of our hosts. It played reasonably well, being tuneful and engaging but I would characterise it as softish on dynamics and lacking the kick this track deserves.
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| Choosing the Tunes |
K selected Ane Brun and settled into a seat centre stage. She seemed to enjoy the music, later commenting on the lack of low bass and the relaxed nature of the sounds.
Whilst we were in there a gent arrived and assembled an enormous alpine horn. It must've been about 5 metres long and is made from the same woods as the speakers, clearly drawing the link between each end of the audio chain. Not sure its that relevant, but then that's not the point, its just part of the fun atmosphere in this room.
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CRANAGE HALL AUDIO SHOW JUNE 2014 - Aion
A mix of static displays in one end, including this see-through power amp and cable lifters (yes, really, but if they're any good why weren't they in use?) and a system playing at the other end.
A Trio turntable fed through the Abyssound electronics into the Aion speakers (referred to as "banana speakers" on the Wam). The speakers are at least an interesting design. There is just the one driver then a folded horn that goes down behind the front panel, curves around, flairs out and exits on the top panel. Not sure what you do about getting the bass levels right if your ceiling is too high or too low...
The room host asked how much I thought they were worth. Well they looked like they might have some silly price like £10k a pair, but sounded like they were worth somewhat less than £1k. He didn't seem too bothered by this verdict, but was proud to announce that they cost £4.5k but could be bought for £4k on the day. They were fine with simple music, but anything remotely complex and this system just got in a muddle. Rather disappointing.
A Trio turntable fed through the Abyssound electronics into the Aion speakers (referred to as "banana speakers" on the Wam). The speakers are at least an interesting design. There is just the one driver then a folded horn that goes down behind the front panel, curves around, flairs out and exits on the top panel. Not sure what you do about getting the bass levels right if your ceiling is too high or too low...
The room host asked how much I thought they were worth. Well they looked like they might have some silly price like £10k a pair, but sounded like they were worth somewhat less than £1k. He didn't seem too bothered by this verdict, but was proud to announce that they cost £4.5k but could be bought for £4k on the day. They were fine with simple music, but anything remotely complex and this system just got in a muddle. Rather disappointing.
CRANAGE HALL AUDIO SHOW JUNE 2014 - Graham Slee
Great range of headphone amps on display in here with 6 or so decent quality headsets, pretty much as you'd expect for a Graham Slee room. Didn't get the time to try them out.
But in the other end of this fairly small room, there's system showcasing phono stages. A Technics turntable is playing through some unnamed and unlabelled electronics into some tiny Stirling standmounts. They look like LS3/5a type designs, but perhaps shallower than I remember. Each of these was supplemented by what looked like a subwoofer. Seems a bit strange to do this - why not just have a separate chamber inside a floorstander? Would be a better result in terms of looks and floorspace - unless there's some theory around separating the mid/treble from the bass vibration. If that's the case I don't think its worth the effort as there was no bass to notice, no warmth, to me it sounded harsh, grating and unsophisticated. Could, of course, have been the turntable or amp, but it wasn't showing off the Graham Slee at all.
This was probably my most disappointing room in the show.
But in the other end of this fairly small room, there's system showcasing phono stages. A Technics turntable is playing through some unnamed and unlabelled electronics into some tiny Stirling standmounts. They look like LS3/5a type designs, but perhaps shallower than I remember. Each of these was supplemented by what looked like a subwoofer. Seems a bit strange to do this - why not just have a separate chamber inside a floorstander? Would be a better result in terms of looks and floorspace - unless there's some theory around separating the mid/treble from the bass vibration. If that's the case I don't think its worth the effort as there was no bass to notice, no warmth, to me it sounded harsh, grating and unsophisticated. Could, of course, have been the turntable or amp, but it wasn't showing off the Graham Slee at all.
This was probably my most disappointing room in the show.
CRANAGE HALL AUDIO SHOW JUNE 2014 - AstinTrew and Tannoy
Had a chat with the guy who runs AstinTrew which turns out to be a British company. We didn't discuss where the stuff is actually assembled but its certainly designed in the UK. For such a small company they have a reasonable range and its very well put together.
Apparently the dealer selected the Tannoys in use. The system produced good imaging but no real depth nor slam to the bass. If you like the typical Naim sound you'd probably like this combination - its very up front and pushes the music at you. Coming from the Linn room my 13 year old daughter really got the idea of up front versus more laid back presentations - before this I'd tried to describe the differences between a Linn and Naim system and here she spotted it herself straight away. We agreed it would become wearing over time. The guy from AstinTrew agreed and put it down to the Tannoys - he suggested a listen with different speakers would show the electronics in a better light.
Apparently the dealer selected the Tannoys in use. The system produced good imaging but no real depth nor slam to the bass. If you like the typical Naim sound you'd probably like this combination - its very up front and pushes the music at you. Coming from the Linn room my 13 year old daughter really got the idea of up front versus more laid back presentations - before this I'd tried to describe the differences between a Linn and Naim system and here she spotted it herself straight away. We agreed it would become wearing over time. The guy from AstinTrew agreed and put it down to the Tannoys - he suggested a listen with different speakers would show the electronics in a better light.
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CRANAGE HALL AUDIO SHOW JUNE 2014 - Systemdek, Audio Origami, van den Hul, McIntosh, ART
A very high end system in this room with beautifully built and rather industrial looking Systemdek, Audio Origami arm (does this have its roots in the land of Syrinx PU7 pehaps?), van den Hul Frog cart, Spa 2 phono stage, McIntosh integrated amp and ART speakers.
Steve Miller was playing as we entered and was sounding very crisp, good timing and deep solid bass guitar. Storm effects quite convincing. We were offered a choice of music and the kids chose London Grammar. The room host engaged with them really well, asking for their favourite track and asking if they'd heard it on vinyl before. They chise Hey Now and Strong. These both sounded excellent but even on such a new album, there were the horrible cracks and pops. Very little sign of surface noise though. A touch bright at times but I think this could be tamed just by turning it down a bit.
outside there was a front baffle on display. From the front it looks like pretty alu trim. However, from behind you can see the sheer solidity of this panel and the milling work that goes into it. Reminded me of seeing the wing spar machining at Airbus. Very good to see some decent looking engineering. Last time I heard McIntosh and ART the thing was dire, but with a different turntable and in a different room of course. This room put that right and was in the top 5 of the day.
CRANAGE HALL AUDIO SHOW JUNE 2014 - Sonteer and Quadral
There were 2 systems set up in here - one at each end of a very large space. The system below was playing at the time we were in there. Unfortunately I really think that the size of the room was overwhelming these little standmounts. The sound was very lightweight so we didn't hang around for long. Probably deserves a more sensible space before making any assessments.
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