Don't Believe What They Tell You By Default - Mesurements Can Be Subjective Too

I've always been of the opinion that measurements, where they relate to how music is reproduced on an hifi system are only there to give some clues.  There are those who believe that measurements can tell you everything you need to know and you can buy kit based on those measurements.  I'm of the opinion that there are still limits to our knowledge and that measurements only cover some parameters, not all of them.

Recently I've seen forum posts that cite the dynamic range (a measurement of the difference between the quietest sounds and the loudest sounds) of an album definitively proves if an album is going to sound good or not.  Of course, dynamic range is an important measure and an important indicator, but it doesn't tell you anything about distortion levels, the quality of the recording equipment / mixing desk / analogue to digital converters, the care with which the recording was made, the imaging in the mix, the frequency range etc. etc.  So its and indicator, but its not definitive.

So its interesting to see this article on the audiostream.com site which exposes some very specific measurements and how they were taken and why they are not necessarily even indicative of what they claim to be measuring.

http://www.audiostream.com/content/are-measurements-subjective

So, like I suggest above, just listen and decide for yourself - you'll like it or you'll not like it, but you'll be using the most important measuring technique you have available, and the most trustworthy available.  Be confident in your own ability to hear the differences and make a decision.

Mmmmm Blues n Beer

Great combination.  Katie Bradley Blues Band.

Listen to them on a radio interview here:  http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/8/d/f/8df924adffa4d800/rnb-katiebradley.m4a?c_id=5850296&expiration=1396439719&hwt=828f12969f442537947721dd3c6b9cf6

Global Reach

Interesting debate going on at the sondex.ru forum about my Linn vs Naim streamer comparison:

http://soundex.ru/index.php?showtopic=9564&page=99

And here in the Netherlands:

http://www.htforum.nl/yabbse/index.php?topic=126367.800

And pageviews by country in the last 7 days:

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FiiO Fi Fo Fumb

I'm currently on the UK west coast mainline heading for home.  That's good news.

There is more good news, but its not 100% good news.

There's a new portable digital music player on my block and this is its first trip outside Musings Towers.

But what about the iPod?  Well, that's still absolutely going to be my primary portable player - with AAC tracks ripped at 320kbps I get every single one of my 10,000+ tracks onto my 160GB classic, along with lots and lots of interesting podcasts.  As an all in one solution, despite the bloatware that is iTunes, its still pretty much unbeatable.  With 320kbps and the Beyer Dynamic DTX-101 ear buds, it works well, its versatile and sounds more than acceptable.  It also appeals to my lazy side - I don't have to decide which tracks to take with me, or which to leave at home as they're all there all the time.

Under some circumstances, it would be good to take the full fat uncompressed FLAC music experience along for the ride.  This needs a device designed to support this format, with a decent DAC that can handle 24bit files and with sound quality as a fundamental design objective (without which, might as well stick with the reasonable quality available on the iPod).  I could have purchased an iPod and added rockbox, but that would still leave the quality of the headphone amp to be desired, and the inability to play 24 bit tracks.  Astell and Kearn have been producing a decent device, but its price really puts it out of my range in terms of something that's more of a nice to have than a primary device.

So along comes FiiO with the X3, a device that's aiming exactly at what fills this gap for me.  FLAC compatible, 24 bit capable, decent DAC and decent headphone amp.  Add to that the ability to feed a line level output to an amp, or even an electrical SP/DIF signal to a DAC and it starts to look very flexible and worth a try. At a price around 1/3 of existing offerings and it looks like the way to go.  The non-headphone outputs are very interesting from a travelling point of view when I have a car with me, and I'm stopping 2 or more nights somewhere.  The ability to plug into a proper amp and use speakers in an hotel room is very appealling and will the subject of another post soon.  No need to shop around, seems that they're the same price on ebay or Amazon.

Who are FiiO?  They appear to be a Chinese company who are bringing low cost manufacturing to the sector, in addition to nothing particularly innovative, other than stringing some existing technologies into a new and interesting package.

If you're looking for something that's as simple and (relatively) foolproof to work as an iPod, then look away now.  The FiiO X3 isn't there yet, but seems to be making progress...

Its not intuitive like an iPod, the control layout isn't brilliant and the screen brightness &  image quality leave much to be desired. Plus, the process for getting a 64GB micro SD card formatted to work isnt exactly straightforward.  Given that the device has a micro SD slot (there's only 8GB of on board storage), the first thing most owners will want to do is add a card and get it formatted. To have to search the forums so soon is not brilliant.  And theres another challenge.  The firmware is evolving so quickly that the forum discussions are already out of date on some topics. The firmware mine came preloaded with has a menu option to format the card, this seems to be a later addition,  given some of the less that smooth routes some users have had to go through before this option was added to the firmware.  Updating the firmware looks quite straightforward,  but I haven't tried that yet, just getting used to the device first.
Plugging the device into my Dell Latitude Windows 7 PC was painless (using the supplied micro USB cable - some audio cables are also included, but thankfully they don't waste any of your cash on rubbish earbuds, you need to choose your own cans), shows the device storage as drives. Loading music is just a case of copy and paste in Windows Explorer and is a smooth process. Initially I've copied over about 300 tracks, all FLAC format and a mix of mainly 16 bit CD rips and some 24 bit material at different sample rates.
Back on the device and its supposed to recognise new music and update its library automatically.  I'm not sure yet how well it does this as I prompted a refresh of the library via the menu option, just to be sure. Will kerp an eye on this and will report back after a few weeks of use.
Battery life seems decent, running to about 8 hours when using the headphones but seems much longer when using the analogue line out, to the point where it hasn't run down on me yet, before reconnecting to the PC. There is no charger included with the device. I don't have a problem with this as I have USB chargers and cables of a compatible type for my Samsung phone which I carry with me most of the time. It will charge when connected to the PC too.

So to sound quality.  Very briefly, its a major step up from an iPod classic, even when the iPod is playing uncompressed ALAC files. Using either the Beyer Dynamic DTX 101 or the Sennheiser Momentums, the sound is bright, detailed, pacey and dynamic.  Bass goes deep but occasionally is a little boomy, I set the tone controls to -1 on the bass which brings back control. The headphone amp has a switchable high and low output levels so should drive most models adequately.  I find the higher output setting with the volume turned down gives a more substantial sound compared to the lower output with the volume turned up.  Given this excellent sound performance, I was expecting 24 bit to be outstanding.  However, with a bunch of mixed 16 and 24 bit tracks on shuffle, I felt I was remembering which tracks are 24 bit rather than hearing the difference. This difference is much smaller than audible on my Linn streamer in the home system. There are constraints on the capabilities of the headphone output. It will go fairly loud and maintain quality, but well before the volume gets too uncomfortable, the midrange does get congested and vocals become swamped. Bass remains controlled and deep, but the congestion in the mids make for uncomfortable listening. This is similar on the buds and the proper cans, but seems to come in at a slightly earlier point on the cans. But keep the volume reasonable and there's very little to complain about for a device of this small a form factor and price.

Later I'll write about using the line out and digital outs, but for now, I'm going to enjoy some more tunes.

Scalford 2014 - The Wigwam Hifi Show Report

IT'S DIFFERENT

The Hifi Wigwam Hifi show is like no other.  50 rooms of systems set up by enthusiasts in an hotel in the UK Midlands to play music for other enthusiasts.

What's the point of that?  Well variety seems to be the watchword.  There's nowhere else where you'll be able to hear so many different approaches to music playing in one day.  And all of it is independent of the manufacturers.  Don't take that to mean impartial - its far from that as the Wam is famous for the views of its members, and their enthusiasm to express those views.

Every room is very different (although you'll hear lots of ways of hanging vinyl, valves and horn speakers together), and tackles what the exhibitor thinks is a good way of playing music at home.  Some of the rooms are very challenging (think hard walls with no furniture, or tiny hotel bedrooms with bouncy chipboard floorboards and sound bleeding through from the next room), and getting a system working even slightly close to its potential is often many hours of setting up work.  Its a lot of work going to exhibit, lots of kit to be transported across the country, carried up stairs, positioned, re-positioned and then re-positioned again, take it all apart, transport it again.

WHY?

Its a strange thing, trying to figure out why anyone does this.  There's no money in it for the exhibitors, in fact it costs money - as a minimum for the liability insurance, and for those in the larger rooms, the additional fee for a large room plus the cost of getting there, staying in the hotel and, the inevitable, beer money.  Is it the community?  Possibly - despite the outward appearances on the Wigwam forum, they're just a bunch of enthusiasts trying to get the best out of their (perhaps I should be saying "our", being a Wammer myself) music playing kit, and to learn from each other.  Is it to gather affirmation of their ability to build / assemble and excellent solution?  Also a possibility, but given the opportunity to produce a rubbish sound in some of these challenging rooms, it hardly seems likely.  Is it altruism, offering to help others decide how to build a good music playing system?  More possibilities here.  What about just extending the idea of the Wammer gathering when a few get together and compare various bits of kit in one of their homes?  There are probably more reasons too, but I suspect it is mainly a combination of the above for most, with other reasons thrown in (such as an excuse to get away for the weekend with like minded folk and drink beer whilst having a good old natter.  There's certainly a community atmosphere about the place, and there's certainly a chance to help others (e.g. one year there was a Wammer there offering to test valves for correct operation).

TAKING PART

This year was my 3rd pie-fi show (it's near Melton Mowbray).  The first year I attended with Richard and John as visitors.  Some systems we enjoyed, some we hated, some were so-so.  And so it will be every year and for every visitor - but every visitor will have a different list of systems in each of those categories.  In every room, joy for one visitor may well be apathy for the next.  What is a constant is the effort put in by exhibitors, and the risk of a disappointing sound.  So even in the rooms where you're less then enamoured by the sound you hear, its always good to remember all that hard work, and acknowledge or thank each and every exhibitor you encounter.

Last year was the first time exhibiting.  Richard and I took my all-Linn active streamer based system.  Partially this was because I thought there would be interest in this as something different (there had been no all-Linn systems at any of the previous 4 iterations of the show) and partially because I really think that system has a lot to offer in terms of musical enjoyment.  To be fair, there was also the fun part of taking something that many Wammers think has very little to no merit as a solution, nor as a brand.  You can read about the results here.

So what to do this year?  It didn't take long to decide to exhibit again, but with the over-riding attraction of Scalford being variety, it seemed appropriate to do something different to last year.  Having more than one system around the house makes this possible.  So this time I wanted to go for something less expensive, yet something again that was new or different for the show.  What would it be?  In the late Summer of 2013 and idea started to form and it was based around taking a Yello "virtual concert" DVD with me to a fellow Linn forum member's house to watch / listen to on his Linn system.  This DVD is excellent sound quality, superb imagery and Yello is a perennial favourite at hifi shows.  The idea was off and running.  A post up on the Wam indicated that there was some interest in a visual presentation, but it wasn't exactly an overwhelmingly positive response.

Sticking with the cost effective route, I put together the following system, after a bit of a test session (read about it here), and the application for a room went in.  As new exhibitors get preference, and that I was proposing something a little unusual, I kind of expected to not be offered a room this year.  Selection is by a very small committee - its not a democracy, and that's fine.  If it turns into a democracy we'd never see a show happen at all.

Sony BD-S480 Blu-ray as transport
Linn Akurate Kontrol/0 Dynamik as DAC and pre-amp
Rotel RB970BX power amp
Mission 773e speakers
Q Acoustics 2070Si sub
Dell M410HD projector & room whiteboard
Chord Prodac Pro Gold digital coax interconnect
Linn Silver analogue interconnect
Linn K20 speaker cable
Clearer Audio Copper Alpha HDMI cable
Clearer Audio Copper Alpha distribution block and mains cables
Quadraspire and Cyrus / Mission Isoplat system support
Atacama SE20 speaker stand for the projector

I also had a projector screen on stand by, but was hoping to get a room with a large flat wall or a whiteboard to work with.  The Linn DAC / pre-amp probably doesn't qualify as cost effective, but you can't have it all ways when putting something together just for a weekend.

The music choice was easy - we would play the Touch Yello Virtual Concert on a loop all day - it plays for about 40 minutes, but most people only stay in the rooms for 5 minutes or so, so that's not a problem.  Well, at least I thought it was an easy choice, but Richard was a bit less confident, which made me less confident, but it was kind of too late, as the application had gone in.

Having exhibited the previous year, this year was somewhat easier.  Dig out last year's spreadsheet and swap out the kit names etc. Make sure the right spares reflected the system in use and make sure there are adequate boxes to protect the kit in transit.  Having lighter speakers this year seemed to be a good thing - carrying last year's up the 2 staircases was hard work.  Hadn't factored in that they're boxed as a pair though...  We were successful in getting a room (again up on the 2nd floor in the main hotel building), so down to work.  Accommodation booked, Saturday night curry booked and pork pies ordered for my room assistants.

THE WEEKEND ARRIVES

All boxed up by Thursday night before the show, signs printed (room door, kit list in the room, and signs to help visitors actually find the 2nd floor in the main building), stuff like biscuits and water for the room sorted and other sundry practicalities to deal with.  Yet again it all looked like an huge amount of kit, stacked up in the hallway and our lounge.  Was it all going to fit into the car?  Saturday arrived - decent weather and all the kit squeezed into the car at the second attempt.  Actually a bit more space left than last year, Richard came over and we set off on the 2.5 hours cross-country.

When you get to Scalford it all gets a bit surreal.  There's folks and boxes and vans and trollies everywhere.  Its all very purposeful.  There are also plenty of folks already at the bar...  We take about an hour to get everything up to the room and out of its boxes, with the help of brother John and fellow Wammer Rick who happened to be passing and offered to lift n shift - all part of the community spirit.  We spent about 10 minutes discussing the layout of the room then got to setting up.  About 30 minutes later we had music playing and a picture on the very conveniently located whiteboard.  Speakers were moved around several times until they balanced well in the room, then we added a very subtle assistance from the subwoofer - again a few adjustments and we were done in under 2.5 hours.  Still seemed a long time, but worth the effort.  With cables taped down and signs up on the walls we were off to the bar to get refreshments.

On the Saturday evening there's a really relaxed atmosphere about the place as Wammers (with beer in hand) wander around to see who's set up yet and drop in for a listen.  The surreal vibe continues - you don't know which rooms will be ready, where they are (the place is a rabbit warren) and what they'll be playing.  Unlike Sunday when everything is very very busy, Saturday is chilled and easy going.  There's good banter and the occasionally panicking Wammer trying to fix a problem or borrow a bit of cable from somewhere.  Just meander around and drop in - you're always welcome.  Bizarre though - who would ever think of running a pair of Quad ESL 63s in a bedroom for example?  With the bed still in there!  Everyone is both opinionated and friendly at the same time.  Then there's the curry buffet and more beers with more listening to be done.  As an exhibitor this is the best time to get around and hear some music.  Sunday will be a bit manic in comparison.

A few pics of our very simple set up this year:

The kit

Setting Up: Playing Toto

During Sunday (photo courtesy of a Wammer - see the link to the gallery below)

Audience (and sophisticated black-out arrangement!)

All the show pictures posted by Wammers are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thehifishow/with/12912104184

SUNDAY

Up around 8am, showered and down for breakfast.  The bedrooms at Scalford are functional.  There's a new owner now (must've been a bit of a shell-shock, taking over the reins on Friday then touring around the rooms over the weekend, seeing what goes on over the Hifi Show weekend) - lets hope it doesn't get too posh.  Whilst a refurb would be a good thing, if it gets too posh it'll get too expensive for many exhibitors and perhaps the economics of the show will no longer stack up.  Lets hope a good balance is maintained.

Breakfast is busy and there's lots more boxes of kit making their way into the hotel.  More helping going on.  There are lots of volunteers about the place - running the show, manning the ticket table, setting up the raffle, handing out the exhibitor badges, just running the whole thing or mucking in wherever required.  And the ever tolerant and helpful hotel staff who probably wonder what's hit them.  We finish off putting a few more signs up on doors and as directions then check out of the bedroom and prepare for the day.  Our first visitors are in at 9:40 (the show opens at 10!) whilst we're still taping up some extra materials to help black-out the windows.

We take turns to look after the room and advise visitors on the kit and the artist (surprisingly, a good number are new to Yello), how much it cost, who makes the projector etc. etc.  We get some good feedback, we get polite nods and we get folk who don't acknowledge that you exist (grrr, you don't have to like what we're playing but you could at least be polite).  We get a few moments of a completely empty room, but that's few and far between.  Most of the time there are between 6 and 10 visitors in the room.  Some put their heads around the door and don't come in, some stay for 5-15 minutes (this is the majority) and some stay for a full cycle of 40 minutes.  We have a good 10 or so who come back for more later in the day (or maybe more, I wasn't in the room all day to know who was a re-visit and who wasn't, in some cases).

Having 2 assistants to look after the room during the day meant a good amount of time to get about the other rooms too, which was really appreciated.  There were many interesting exhibits such as Serge's quadraphonics, the professional reel-to-reel tape decks, fantastic DIY kit, some amazing workmanship in wood etc.  I didn't get around to all the rooms but I particularly enjoyed the Jolida / Muhlidine system, Myrman's Zingalis (suffering from the boominess in the room, but cutting through that), the Wadia / Krell / Wilson Audio system making the best of a very large and reverberant room and the LP12 / Naim / Neat MF7 system.  Hearingisbelieving (Chris) was getting exceptional results in what must be one of the worst excuses for a room ever - the T+A speakers coping well in what is effectively a wide corridor.  I'm sure there were other highlights, but I either missed them, or they've slipped my mind for the moment.

Its amazing how quickly the 7 hours goes by.  But by 16:45 we had an empty room and decided to start packing up.  About 10 minutes in we had to disappoint some visitors who were still making their rounds, so apologies to them.  Took us one hour (6 hands make light work) to get everything into boxes and packed into the car.  Stirling work by Richard and John after a long day, they made the weekend much more enjoyable in terms of a shared experience, good banter, company when touring the rooms etc. - thanks very much to both of them (although I have a sneaking suspicion they had a good time too).  Also many thanks to all the Wammers who make this happen, and to the hotel staff for their cheerfulness and tolerance.  And to the raffle organisers - I came away with a SIM2 projector, so very pleased with that, but also for them raising approx. £2000 for cancer charities.  Excellent.

Another 2.5 hours in the car in torrential rain saw us home again safely, boxes out of the car, then collapse and ready for sleep.  A very exhausting weekend, but somehow very enjoyable.

One final thanks - and the most important one for me - to my wife and kids for letting me spend such valuable weekend time doing something quite so off-beat as the Wam show.

Now, what's the plan for 2015?   :-)

AND FINALLY, SOME FEEDBACK FROM AROUND THE FORUMS

From Cyrusunofficial.co.uk :

abozo: TBH Yello isn't my taste in music but I have to admit that the sound in sunbeamgls's room was startlingly good.  A very nice setup and those Mission speakers were outdoing themselves. 

Moz: I think you got a great sound out of those Missions. Enjoyed my time listening and viewing. Thanks for exhibiting.

callen24: +1 so good where those missions that in the dark I thought they were £15k linn actives, yello isn't my cup of tea, but stop make sense, or some other classic concert film would float my boat.
the whole idea improved the show, still hifi , and not AV

hifinutt: I think sunbeams system was a real hit with many , it was so enjoyable and sounded better for knowing it was such a reasonable cost

Brumjam: The room showing Yello through a Mission system was another highlight.

From forums.linn.co.uk :

Slackboy: Sunbeam's room was cool; nothing like anything else there, which was great in itself. I was surprised at how crisp that Rotel/Mission pairing was, especially on percussion - very nice. I'm not all that much of a Yello fan, but I did enjoy something to look at other than a load of (other) middle-aged blokes with beer bellies. Great idea and well done. Very inspiring!

Dasher: I enjoyed your AV too even though I too am to a great Yello fan.

From hifiwigwam.com :

cobbler: great fun and loved the concept of a themed room.

petethefeet: Loved the setup in there, inspired. A real experience.

Turn It Up!: I think my Yello days are long behind me but fair play to you for the all out Yello only playback. Nice to see some visuals, be good to have a few other exhibitors get some screens running.

Beobloke: Fine sounding setup and I loved the Yello concert – a very novel idea.

sligolad: Met Niall(Neill), John and Friend at the saturday night curry. Great lads and fellow bikers as well but when Niall explained the system I though this is a bit ridiculous why bother doing it. Changed my mind when I saw the quality of picture and sound achieved with a small budget.

JANDL100: Sunbeamgls's Yello Touch virtual DVD concert on permanent repeat. A great idea. Fab.

themadlatvian: Actually I greatly enjoyed your Linn system the previous year, so I wasn't surprised when you came up with a musically pleasing room this time. I know the limitations of the 773es from personal experience, but you got far more out of them than I expected.

Ready To Go. To The Show

Photo

with thanks to Gromit at HifiWigwam for the photo tweaking  :-)

Hell Freezes Over?

There's a follow up posting to this story, 3 weeks later here.  Read this post first then check out the follow-up.

As a starter for a weekend of hifi, I guess this is one of the more exotic ways to kick off. 

After the usual week of work, everything was planned and ready to go for the Wigwam hifi show at Scalford with travelling on Saturday and the show itself on Sunday.  Friday evening was supposed to be time at home before disappearing off for a weekend of sonic indulgence and maybe the occasional glass of beer.  But "Richard Is My Naim", my local Naimist and co-conspirator at Scalford dropped a killer call at knocking-off time on Friday evening.  Another black box had arrived.  It needed setting up.  It needed listening to.  Now.  An NDS had landed.

Back Story

In 2 parallel universes, somewhere in North Wales, 2 journeys from CD to streaming have been played out.  Myself predominantly with Linn,  Richard consistently with Naim.

My starting point:  Meridian CD508.20 / Meridian 541 Pre / Rotel power amps / Active Linn Keilidhs.  Via Squeezebox, CA and Cyrus DACs, Cyrus and older Linn power amps, Linn AV5103 pre etc., at the end of 2013 I was at Linn Akurate DS/0/1, Linn Akurate Kontrol/0/D, Linn Majik Dynamik amps and active Majik 140 speakers.  And very happy was I.  Until a "friendly" Linn forum member let me hear a KDSM versus the Klimax Renew (KRDS) streamers.  With the advent of Linn Exakt, a good few Klimax DS/1s (KDS/1) came on the market, the prices fell, and, at the beginning of 2014, a black KDS/1 stepped in to my system and completely re-wrote the rule books.  I could almost see the cogs whirring in Richard's head when he heard how profound a change the KDS/1 brought to my music.

Richard's starting point: Naim CDX2, XPS power supply, NAC252 pre with HiCap PS, NAP180 power and Wilson Benesch Arc standmount speakers.  Then, via the second version of the CDX2, and improved XPS2, NAP250 power amp, NDX with XPS2, he has ended up with NDX / 555PS DR streamer, NAC282 / HiCap pre-amp, NAP250 power amp and Kudos C20 Super floorstanding speakers.  He was also very happy.

So here we have 2 very different ways of getting to a decent quality streaming solution.  And they sound very different too.  Both have bags of detail, but the Linn system is very precise and instruments are really well separated whereas the Naim system sounds more like it wants to get on with everything (like there's not enough time in the day), it has a particularly expansive soundstage and, for me, can occasionally sound a bit strident.  Guess what?  We both think we have the correct answer, but we also seem to respect what the other is enjoying, if that makes sense.

Why Is Hell Freezing Over?

This is a reference to a couple of things.  First, the live album by The Eagles - when they originally split up, one of the band was quoted as saying they would only get back together, "when Hell freezes over", yet there they were, playing live again together.  The second reference is to the relationship between Linn and Naim as companies.  Back in the 1970s, when Linn started out with the LP12 turntable and Naim started out making simple but well engineered amplifiers, the two companies had very similar outlooks - they were out to challenge the establishment and did so very effectively.  When Linn added speakers to their range, and Naim expanded their line of amplifiers, all was well.  The components worked well together and became the "established" route for UK audiophiles.  But when Linn added amplifiers to their range (rumour has it that the Naim MD used one as an office doorstop), then Naim produced a tonearm for the LP12, it all started to go a bit off-kilter.

Despite that, many dealers and customers still work with and enjoy combining the 2 manufacturers' equipment today.

So perhaps this isn't Hell freezing over, but putting the top of the range (almost - more later) Naim streamer on the same rack as the top of the range Linn streamer is probably not something that happens too often.

Naim NDS on a shelf above the Linn KDS/1

Richard's usual streamer solution is Naim NDX with the 555PS DR power supply.  The most recent upgrade step was to swap out the XPS2 for the 555PS DR power supply a good few months ago, and we were both stunned by the improvement this brought in terms of imaging, leading edge attack and more atmosphere to the music.  In source terms, there's only one place its possible to go from there, and that would be to swap out the NDX streamer for Naim's current top of the range NDS streamer.  The NDS can use a single 555PS DR power supply - the one Richard currently uses with his NDX - so its a straight swap, NDX out, NDS in.

Having packed up the KDS/1 into its Linn box, I was round to Richard's house fairly sharpish.  Down to business - get all this stuff up and running to allow us to make the comparison.

A bit untidy with Ethernet and power cables. Left hand rack consists of Naim NAC282 pre-amp, Naim NDX, Naim HiCap PS for the 282, Naim 555PS DR for the NDS, Naim NAP250 power amp.  In the foreground the Kudos C20 Super (in cherry veneer).  Racks are by Quadraspire.

Get Set, Before Go

An unmanaged switch was connected into the Devolo Ethernet over mains plug to allow 2 x Ethernet connections.  The KDS/1 was hooked up to the network, and with the wifi password sorted out, was pointed at the correct UPnP database from my Android phone (using BubbleDS control point) and that was sorted.  Linn Silver interconnects into the back of the NAC282 (actual phono sockets!) and that was ready to go.

The Naim is a little more complex as it needs two very large ("bundy") cables connecting - both of these are intended to be connected to the 555PS DR power supply.  It took us a while to work out which is which cable - apart from the different arrangement of pins in the plugs, there's not much to go on.  Until we worked out that one cable had a single white band at one end with the other having 2 white bands.  Turns out that this correlates to input 1 and input 2 on the back of the NDS.  Easy when you know how!  One more cable to carry the signal to the NAC282 pre-amp and we're good to go.  The NDS pops up on the iPad and music is available from both sources.

Where Did That Come From?

The previous weekend I'd been at the Bristol show organised by Audio-T and WHF magazine.  Naim had been there, with their first European public demo of the Statement amplifier which you can read about here.  Turns out that what we had there in front of us right now was the NDS streamer that Naim had used in that demo in Bristol.  Surprisingly, they seemed to have used a brand new unit that weekend, so perhaps it got better over the weekend and those who heard the system on Sunday may have heard something more enjoyable than the demo I was lucky to get into, first thing on the Friday.  So it had some burn-in time, but not a great deal.  My KDS/1 has about 15 months use, so no chance of any burn-in issues there.

Worth pointing out, at this point, that the KDS/1 and the NDS with a single 555PS DR are pretty much on a par, price wise.  The KDS/1 is the top of the Linn range at the moment (of the conventional streamers that is, excluding the Klimax Exakt DSM which is a different kettle of deep fried fish in technology approach), but the Naim NDS can be upgraded further by the addition of a second 555 PS DR power supply.  Apparently one serves the analogue circuits, the other the digital circuits, hence separating stuff even further.

Listen Up

Testing my memory a bit now, but I think this is what we listened to:

Steely Dan - Any Major Dude

Fleetwood Mac - Rumours (24 bit)

Ane Brun - Worship

Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit

James Taylor - Gaia

Eagles - Hotel California (Live)

Eagle Eye Cherry - Shooting Up In Vain

Some Radiohead, which I choose not to remember, and some other stuff I can't remember due to advancing age (probably).  Maybe Richard will be along soon to provide an update - although he is one year older than me, so maybe that's unlikely  ;-)

Strangely, for us, Blues Company didn't feature at all.

So What?

Well, that's a very good question.  So what?

I like my Linn system.  Richard likes his (almost all, but thank goodness there are no Ovators in the area) Naim system.  Can you guess where this is going?

I've suggested a "Part 2" where we put the NDS into my Linn system.  The NDS is on demo at the moment, so we're not sure if we'll find a mutually available time to give that a go.  If it happens, you'll read about it here.

Interestingly (maybe?), this bake-off fitted with the Scalford Hifi Wigwam show weekend very well.  How so?  Did it sound like vinyl, played through valves and a set of extreme home made horns?  No.  No.  Not at all.  The alignment is this - Scalford is about variety and variety, with some added variety.  For example, when exhibiting with my budget system and playing a Yello DVD (with a projector too), we had some people who walked out in less than 30 seconds (I think 3 minutes would be a fairer time to decide, but hey, I'm kind of known for being unreasonably reasonable, sometimes), and some who watched the whole video end to end - 40 minutes.  Equally, I like to give every room a try, but some I stay in, others I find 3-5 minutes with a couple of different tracks and I want to move on.  There is a theme with the Wam - there are some systems that do lots of things very well, but there are many systems that do one or two things exceptionally well, but don't do all the other things well at all.  And that's what it seems to be about - enthusiasts playing what they think is right, whether you, dear visitor, like it or not.

Variety.  See?

And whilst I wouldn't accuse either the Linn, nor the Naim, of doggedly pursuing a very narrow set of goals, you can very much hear a house sound from both devices, even in a predominantly Naim system (hence my suggestion we do this again in a Linn system at some point, to get some balance, maybe).

How is it that 2 expensive, highly engineered solutions, using exactly the same source material across exactly the same network, create such a different feel?  What's happening to those bits and, further down the chain, those analogue waves that crunches them out so differently, and yet with some commonality?

What's common?  Detail, layers upon layers of intricate detail.  Tiny nuances in voices, subtle touches of cymbals which are normally hidden underneath other cymbals or percussion on lesser components.    Bass lines that aren't one instrument, but are 2 or 3 that play tunes that intertwine with each other.  That extra level of control that is only stunningly apparent when its there, and then when you step back to a lesser component and notice that the looseness is back.  It amazes me that what sounds great on a system is suddenly put into a perspective of inadequacy when you hear it done "right".  What is "right" anyway?  I wasn't there at the recording so I don't really know, and yet its somehow obvious.  A bit like colour in a photograph - its often obvious what's been changed in Photoshop (other programs are available), yet you weren't there to see the real thing - you just instinctively know its not right, not natural. And rhythm.  Both of these players time superbly.  Tap tap go the toes - its involuntary, its pretty much inevitable.

What's different?  Everything else. 

The Linn sounds so much like its fully in control.  The music will do what the Linn tells it to do.  The instruments are carefully "placed".  The imaging is immaculately controlled.  You can imagine the subtlety with which a string is plucked, a cymbal brushed, a sigh is delivered.  Its precise.  And yet, it flows so smoothly.  There's something about the Linn that makes the music feel crafted by hand with skill and attention by musicians who care. Not lacking in attack, but instrument attack is precisely delivered - starts and stops are there to be heard.  Decay is beautifully extended yet the instruments don't blur together.  Clearly this works brilliantly on material such as James Taylor, the Eagles and Eagle Eye Cherry.  Does this make Nirvana and Radiohead polite and lacking in bite?  No, strangely not, the bite and anger is there, the emotion flows through.

The Naim is clearly a Naim component.  There's very little chance that you would mix up the 2.  It punches, it attacks the music, there's no doubt whatsoever that it means to get on with the job, to tell you that this is the way the music is, get on and enjoy it, or get out of my way.  Its a much more raw experience than the Linn, and I think that's what Richard enjoys - he takes this as being more emotional, more like real life.  For me it gets too much at times - pushing my limits of enjoyment, getting close to the point of aggression and boarding on harsh.  Its not my cup of tea, but I can absolutely hear the appeal.  The Naim has a tiny more expression in the vocals, especially female vocals - just a bit more texture, if you like.  It also has a wider soundstage, filling the room more from left to right, but not quite so much front to back - delivering this as a counterpoint to the precision of the Linn.  Sometimes the decay of instruments is lost a little in the mix, in comparison with the Linn - perhaps that's something that contributes to the need to move on, to deliver the next bit of excitement.

So there it is.  Not much of a conclusion really, is it?  Guess what?  I'm very happy to have chosen the Linn, but that's not a slight at the Naim which I fully respect for what it does and what it achieves.  Put the Naim in a Naim system and you get exactly what you might expect, just more of it, to a finer level of detail and with that extra bit of passion.  I suspect that Richard will also choose the Naim.  He's leaving it playing during the week, so maybe a bit more time on the NDS will change it further.

But I'm left with a bit of a nagging doubt, and we discuss it a number of times over the weekend at Scalford.  Is the NDS worth the asking price over and above the NDX?  On the basis of this session, upgrading the NDX / XPS2 to NDX / 555PS DR delivered a bigger step.  Yes the NDS is better than the NDX, but it hasn't delivered as much as the power supply change.  Seems counter intuitive really doesn't it?  Surely a different DAC, analogue output stage and improved physical isolation makes a bigger change than a better, beefier, tighter power supply change?  Not on this showing it doesn't.

Lets see what the week's extra burn-in brings.  For this test I come away happy with the KDS/1, Richard comes away wondering about that 10 year old Porsche Boxster...

There's a follow up posting to this story, 3 weeks later here.

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Bristol Interest

A new peak daily viewing number for this blog yesterday - 1,413 views.
Clearly the Bristol show generates some interest.

Bristol Show 2014 - Wilson Benesch and Audionet

Pretty good sound here, clear and clean from the turntable into the new Square speakers. However, the usual caveat for many of the rooms in that they played safe well recorded jazz, so no idea what it sounds like with female folk vocals or the Stereophomics.

Bristol Show 2014 - Arcam and Q Acoustics

Arcam disc spinner and AV receiver into Concept 20 then Concept 40.  Good range  of tunes played, but annoyingly most of them changed to the next track about halfway through. The 20s are very good for 350 - sharp, controlled, tuneful. Theyre quite expensive when you add the stands. 

The 40s (which are the floorstanders) add weight but not as much as you might hope. Both image very well. If someone said the Concept 40 was 600 to 700 pounds I'd be impressed.  But at 1k theyre not the knock out I would hope for. They genuinely did have a rubbish room though, with a semi-domed ceiling. Not helped by the Q staff nattering and giggling with some mates at the back of the room. Why can't these people step out into the corridor? !?

Bristol Show 2014 - Bryston and PMC

Launch of PMC Twenty.26  At 6k I rather enjoyed them more than the FACT 12 which are twice the price. First time I've heard a PMC that seemed to have a properly integrated bass. Enjoyed the music in here and they hald the audience in the room too.

Sorry about the rough picture. When the battery gets low on my phone the flash sswitches off.

Twenty.26

FACT 12

Bristol Show 2014 - Quad

 

Quad were playing their new Air Play wifi bluetooth integrated amp into electrostatics.  Lowish volume with surprisingly extended but very woolly bass. Also suprised to hear these speakers lacking sparkle and life. Have heard these sounding far far better so it must be the amp or the unknown digital source to blame.

Bristol Show 2014 - KEF

 

The KEF blades are pictured above (the orange was a bit more vibrant than they look above), but they weren't playing when I was in the room, mores the pity as I've heard them before and really enjoyed them.

The tiny LS50 (on the stands) was playing, and its fair to say that it took a minute or so to be sure it was them and not the blades, which has got to be a complement!  They sounded very good to be fair, but I didn't hang around in here too long as small standmounts don't interest me too much at the moment. 

Bristol Show 2014 - Cyrus and Vienna Acoustics

For me, the Lyric doesnt look any better in the flesh:

 

Vienna Acoustics 

 

Unfortunately, due to my being wrapped up in getting to as many rooms as possible during the day, I forgot to keep an eye on my watch.  Which meant I missed my appointment time at Cyrus (apologies Cyrus, I hope you were able to let others into the room to fill your seats) when I was booked in to hear the new Stream X Signature, something I was genuinely interested in hearing.  So I was in there when they were playing the Lyric 09.  Generally I get on well with the Cyrus / Vienna combination but this was somewhat uninspiring today.  A bit lifeless really, but they were playing it quite quietly. 

Bristol Show 2014 - Chord

 

It was late in the day when I got here and there was no music playing, so I didn't hang around to listen to the technical discussion which was ongoing (not a presentation, just chatter). 

Bristol Show 2014 - Audio Note and Snell

 

Turntable being played here, through some of those boxes on the table and floor (who knows which ones, another jumble of stuff where the visitor is expected to guess what's going on).  First track was a bit uninspiring but the second track was great - a real flow to the music and a sense of naturalness, if that makes any sense.  One of the best rooms today. 

Bristol Show 2014 - Lumin, Albarry and Amphion

One of the most musical rooms today.  

I have a Linn Klimax DS/1 which shares many of the same design approaches (machined from solid case, separate internal compartments, Lindahl output transformers etc.) of the Lumin streamer so was really interested to hear this kit.

By combining it with the Albarrys which I like very much and the Amphions which are new to me at this show, a very musical and unforced presentation resulted.  Very fluid, smooth across the frequency range, speakers sounding very comfortable with what they were doing.

How does the Lumin compare to the Linn?  Well, they'd have to be in the same system in the same room on the same day really, so no way to make that comparison here.  On the basis of this though, it is a comparison worth making.

I understand the Lumin is available at a very good price to introduce it to the country and its price will increase later, so probably worth checking out sooner rather than later.  The finish isn't up to the standards of the Linn, but its significantly lower cost too.

Another room where they were happy to play a good variety of music too - I'm learning that this is often a good indicator of a good system.

Bristol Show 2014 - BMC

Including belt drive cdp.

Not bad sound in here - too many lights and dials though - they can be dimmed but not turned off.

The aluminium extruded speakers didn't sound like tin cans, so that's good.  I think the thing that stands out for me in this room is that it didn't stand out.  When I think back, I can't really recall much about the sound here - so take that as you will - it must've been either bland, neutral or somewhere in between.

Nice to see some original thoughts around design though.  It's not to my taste, but it is quite refreshing.

 

Bristol Show 2014 - Dali, Anthem and PS4

 

In this room they were playing movies on a decent flat screen TV using an Anthem receiver and this tiny speakered Dali 5.1 system.  That subwoofer you can see above is only about 35cm cubed and the little cast aluminium boxes on lollipop sticks are about 10cm high and 6cm deep.  They have wood fibre cones to the mid driver (not sure what the difference is between wood fibre and paper, but it sounds like it might be more rigid.

Usually something this compact and "lifestyle" sounds thin, hard, harsh and rather unpleasant. However, for movies, this lot was rather impressive.  I know Anthem have a good reputation so that will be contributing, but, to be fair, this tiny little set up gave a really good account of itsself and if that was what I needed in terms of space or cost, this would do very nicely indeed.  No music heard when I was in there so that's a bit caveat, but for TV or film this was a big, and pleasant, surpise. 

Bristol Show 2014 - Sony

Promoting hi-res audio which is a good thing. Music wasn't really demonstrating much except how to send you off to sleep perhaps.Not sure if that was the choice of music or the kit itsself though.

The electronics below were playing through some Sony gloss black floorstanders containing lots of drivers.

Bristol Show 2014 - Musical Fidelity

M8 cdp pre and power and the very cute little V90 DAC/integrated amp playing into the Spendor floorstanders below.

Another lifeless and rather unexciting listen.  Not even particularly detailed to be honest.  It all sounded a bit "small".  Was expecting more, given all the good reviews this kit has.

Interested in the minature kit - the V90 is tiny yet has lots of functionality.  Perhaps a pair of phono inputs rather than the 3.5mm input would've improved it further, but it seems to be focussed on desktop audio with a printer style USB input which looks to mean a PC is the primary target.

Bristol Show 2014 - Focal and Naim

It must be said, I haven't really had good experiences with Focals to date.  The likes of the Diablo always sound too aggressive and waaaay too bright, topping off a very "technical" sound that doesn't seem to offer much in the way of music.

However, today, these are the best I've heard Focals (and that includes the ones used in the Naim Statement demo) the floorstanding Aria 900 being far less bright than their usual offerings. 
Mid range Naim electronics (NDX / XPS and SuperNait / HiCap) feeding streamed music into these really bounced along with deep and reasonably controlled bass lines.  Still a touch on the bright side, but without the aggression and it wasn't overpowering.  They let you play your own music in this room too, and this was popular - had to wait in the queue of 4 other tracks on USB sticks before we got to the Malia / Boris Blank I brought along.  Yet another example of how much better Naim can sound when not using Ovators...

Bristol Show 2014 - Heed, The White Room

Possibly best decorated room with white sheen drapes all-round and the black and white spotty rugs hiding the usual hotel room carpet challenge. Sounding thin and lightweight with the Foo Fighters on the TT. Much richer sound from mac mini. Enigma speakers remind me a bit of Shahinians.   I do like the all white simplicity of the kit, but not sure that glossy white plastic fronts look very expensive.

Often at these shows the room host will be seen to exaggeratingly nodding their head, rocking their bodies or waggling their toes.  The Heed room took this to excess with our host clearly out to prove how rocking the Foo Fighters were sounding - with head banging and air guitar to prove it.  On the flip side, he did say that the Enigma 5 speakers "won't suit everyone" due to their sloping baffle which disperses the sound into the room.